Mosselman M3 MSL Achieves 500hp/354tq Naturally Aspirated

positiveions · 07-24-2010, 10:01 PM

hmmm, let's see dyno results.

Jason · 07-24-2010, 10:43 PM

Sorry about the torque #'s. It's been corrected.

numba1guju · 07-25-2010, 01:16 AM

this has to be fake cause if you go to their website and go to e92 m3 all the pics are copied from original bmw pics...the video posted is not even their own its a fifth gear one..and the dyno pics are of invalid links

http://www.mosselmanturbo.com/index.php?id=150

and if you go under media and click videos more youtube videos linked which dont seem to belong to them

PaulTheHero · 07-25-2010, 02:43 AM

It is a small company. But they are around for ages now. But i dont have first hand experience on what they do. In the past i saw alot of 325i mosselman turbo's.
I think some1 need to go inspect it over there. Too bad they are closed in my vacation.

MrHarris · 07-25-2010, 02:52 AM

I've done similar mods plus a pulley, minus the modification of the cylinder heads. Anyone know how much power you gain from that mod? I'm around approx 480bhp

Chasen Kinetechnik · 07-25-2010, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

I've done similar mods plus a pulley, minus the modification of the cylinder heads. Anyone know how much power you gain from that mod? I'm around approx 480bhp

Really? because CAMS* make up the majority of that car along with thier crazy air-box design.

tres · 07-25-2010, 08:54 AM

best looking m3 imho

Oulixes · 07-25-2010, 09:13 AM

Interesting information, thanks.

Trojan4evr · 07-25-2010, 11:21 AM

I'd rather do Dinan storker for the same amount of hp , that is if I had an M3 and all that Money.

shaunt · 07-25-2010, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trojan4evr

I'd rather do Dinan storker for the same amount of hp , that is if I had an M3 and all that Money.

I wouldn't.

henryyxyu · 07-25-2010, 05:54 PM

is it me or do those 'adjustable CF front splitter(s)' looks like the Arkym lip?

J08M3 · 07-25-2010, 06:54 PM

I wonder where the air filter goes?

Bob MG · 07-26-2010, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chasen Kinetechnik

Really? because CAMS* make up the majority of that car along with thier crazy air-box design.

making friends alreay

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaunt

I wouldn't.

Hey buddy, you back. when were you unbanned?

Quote:

Originally Posted by J08M3

I wonder where the air filter goes?

Probably two air filters, one in each side of the intake?

MRE90M3 · 07-26-2010, 09:09 AM

Interesting, with my ECU flashed back to stock settings, i was getting 350 WHP at 100 degrees. So my baseline WHP is about 330. now that ess, and RPI has retuned my car, the power gains are tremendous. im expecting to get 370 WHP with the new exhaust.. but still i want that 400 WHP NA. I want this system!! NAOS!!
or maybe retrofit the GTS =D

shaunt · 07-27-2010, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob MG

Hey buddy, you back. when were you unbanned?

I was unbanned in May but I haven't been posting because I've been traveling over Europe this summer

... But time for an exhaust and some other mods

Alpina740 · 07-30-2010, 02:58 PM

NA > FI all day

swamp2 · 07-30-2010, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ersin

Some of the power gain is achieved from raising the redline. I wonder how high it is? Max power is at 8600 rpm, so, maybe 8700.

The first order rough calculation (assuming torque is constant) is that the power gained is just the original power times the new redline/old redline. In this case that is only abotu 3-4%. Not much of the total gain but it all helps.

GOLFFRR · 07-30-2010, 06:06 PM

those rims are sick...

BadBoostedBMWM3 · 08-01-2010, 02:34 AM

Sounds possible, but i wonder how cost efficient it is.

Jack28 · 08-02-2010, 08:39 PM

danm that is impressive... Love that its NA... That air box and cams do make a difference on tq with software, intake and exhaust. Had a similar set-up on my NA E46 M3 minus the Air-box)... Would love to see some more info on this, Im real interested to see some dyno charts and so on...

Donbona · 08-03-2010, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gr8000

Who's gonna be the first one to try them?!...

Is there any sort of engine warranty for this mod?

BTW, who are they and what is their experience / background? Sorry but it is the first time I hear them (not meant to be an adverse comment, its just me being genuinely ignorant).

They have been around for years... I remember them when I was driving around in a Fiat Uno

http://www.mosselmanturbo.com/en/home.html

M3x2 · 08-03-2010, 07:59 AM

dyno plot or go home

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