M3 vs. Evolution

luckistryke · 03-10-2009, 09:33 PM

Lexus Rumoured to be Prepping Faster & Lighter IS-F Evolution.
IS F Evolution will come with a 5.0 liter V8 with 435 hp.

Lexus is still playing me-too with the German premium brands. They've established themselves fairly well in the North American market but still have to prove their mettle in the product contests in each segment. And they have to start selling a few more cars in Europe, but that's another story.

The rumor is that Toyota is now testing a couple of Lexus IS F Evolution mules somewhere in the Pacific region. Perhaps some barren Pacific island only Toyota knows the whereabouts of where they brew their indestructible, although bland, automotive blends.

In any case, a 5.0 liter V8 dutifully pumping out 435 hp is still in the cards for the IS F Evolution, a modest increase from the 416hp of the standard IS F. Enough to compete with the M3? Well, the ride will be the decisive factor there. And Toyota is said to be tweaking weight and other handling factors to make the IS F Evolution quicker and more nimble.

Weight reduction will come by way of front and rear ends replaced by carbon fiber materials. Ceramic brakes to improve deceleration will accompany the wheels wearing 245/35R19 tires at the front and 275/30R19 ones for the back.

Interior will also feature carbon fiber finishings and Recaro bucket seats at the front.

Japanese auto mag Best Car estimates a weight reduction of about 300 pounds (some 140 kg) and a starting price somewhere in the region of 180,000 US dollars.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090310....is-f-evolution

so w/ the add hp and 300 stones lighter, will this new kid on the block (Black Series like) unseat the M track king?

graider · 03-10-2009, 11:25 PM

180k = automatically failure

mixja · 03-10-2009, 11:31 PM

That picture looks really fake - intercooler for a normally aspirated car?

M3WC · 03-10-2009, 11:44 PM

Maybe a tuned version of the tuned version of the IS, can beat a M3. Doubt it.

mach330 · 03-10-2009, 11:53 PM

180K? i'd rather get the the spec V gt-r for that price. that's insane price.

Sticky · 03-11-2009, 12:06 AM

If Lexus wants to go ahead with it, I would love for them to. Maybe some added pressure would get someone at BMW to reconsider the CSL. Maybe give NA M motors a proper send off, a worthy tribute.

Dascamel · 03-11-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by graider

180k = automatically failure

+1000

Where the f**k does 180k come in the picture? I find that hard to believe.

MrHarris · 03-11-2009, 12:34 AM

180k? wtf?

ChrisFastM3 · 03-11-2009, 12:40 AM

I'm gonna raise the BS flag here....

FStop7 · 03-11-2009, 12:53 AM

Ahahahaha $180,000

Sticky · 03-11-2009, 01:19 AM

Come on people, Toyota is not delusional enough to think there would be any interest for this thing at 180k.

michaeldorian · 03-11-2009, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mach330

180K? i'd rather get the the spec V gt-r for that price. that's insane price.

I'd take a standard GTR over this thing.

rob612 · 03-11-2009, 02:20 AM

lol still not a bmw

Robin_NL · 03-11-2009, 02:32 AM

US $ 180,000 is about 140,000 euros, the price of a rather fully loaded E93 M3 at my dealership here in my country so what's the problem? LOL

Well almost 140k euros and it's a MY'08 ...
http://www.debeier.nl/asp/pagina.asp...to&volgnr=1376

spectrumphoto · 03-11-2009, 04:24 AM

I'll wait for the Supra to come back!!!

Irb Digital · 03-11-2009, 06:10 AM

I'd give em $70k for it

04S · 03-11-2009, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Hood

US $ 180,000 is about 140,000 euros, the price of a rather fully loaded E93 M3 at my dealership here in my country so what's the problem? LOL

Well almost 140k euros and it's a MY'08 ...
http://www.debeier.nl/asp/pagina.asp...to&volgnr=1376

The problem is that it is ridiculously expensive for a glorified toyota

spearfisher · 03-11-2009, 10:19 AM

180 K, NO

MJC///M3 · 03-11-2009, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfisher

180 K, NO

+1

Driver72 · 03-11-2009, 01:24 PM

Evolution??

Mitsubishi will be all over that lawsuit like flies on s**t.

aznbenz07 · 03-11-2009, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Driver72

Evolution??

Mitsubishi will be all over that lawsuit like flies on s**t.

+1, And my x will have just as many horses by the time this over priced snooze cart hit's the streets. Come on now toyota leave the name evolution where it belongs. This is-f probably won't even be available in stick shift.

JC919 · 03-11-2009, 11:05 PM

$180k, that has to be wrong. Really challenging a GT-R at twice the price. I saw that article on worldcarfans and there is no way that the estimated price is correct.

03-10-2009, 09:33 PM	#1
luckistryke First Lieutenant 31 Rep 308 Posts Drives: Very very fast Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pleasanton, SF Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	M3 vs. Evolution Lexus Rumoured to be Prepping Faster & Lighter IS-F Evolution. IS F Evolution will come with a 5.0 liter V8 with 435 hp. Lexus is still playing me-too with the German premium brands. They've established themselves fairly well in the North American market but still have to prove their mettle in the product contests in each segment. And they have to start selling a few more cars in Europe, but that's another story. The rumor is that Toyota is now testing a couple of Lexus IS F Evolution mules somewhere in the Pacific region. Perhaps some barren Pacific island only Toyota knows the whereabouts of where they brew their indestructible, although bland, automotive blends. In any case, a 5.0 liter V8 dutifully pumping out 435 hp is still in the cards for the IS F Evolution, a modest increase from the 416hp of the standard IS F. Enough to compete with the M3? Well, the ride will be the decisive factor there. And Toyota is said to be tweaking weight and other handling factors to make the IS F Evolution quicker and more nimble. Weight reduction will come by way of front and rear ends replaced by carbon fiber materials. Ceramic brakes to improve deceleration will accompany the wheels wearing 245/35R19 tires at the front and 275/30R19 ones for the back. Interior will also feature carbon fiber finishings and Recaro bucket seats at the front. Japanese auto mag Best Car estimates a weight reduction of about 300 pounds (some 140 kg) and a starting price somewhere in the region of 180,000 US dollars. http://www.worldcarfans.com/9090310....is-f-evolution so w/ the add hp and 300 stones lighter, will this new kid on the block (Black Series like) unseat the M track king? __________________
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Sticky Banned 78 Rep 2,244 Posts Drives: E92 Jerez DCT M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Anaheim Hills / Malibu iTrader: (0)	Come on people, Toyota is not delusional enough to think there would be any interest for this thing at 180k.
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rob612 Second Lieutenant 13 Rep 235 Posts Drives: e92 - m3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: California iTrader: (1)	lol still not a bmw
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Robin_NL S0THPAW 8716 Rep 7,846 Posts Drives: HS M2 Competition Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	US $ 180,000 is about 140,000 euros, the price of a rather fully loaded E93 M3 at my dealership here in my country so what's the problem? LOL Well almost 140k euros and it's a MY'08 ... http://www.debeier.nl/asp/pagina.asp...to&volgnr=1376
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