Carls Jr. Police Shooting

[The1]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Heh, a bit OT, but I'm behind those ... and read this carefully ... WHO ACTUALLY ARE STILL THERE TO FIGHT FOR THE CAUSE (not the "fuck rich people let's get high as fuck" cause). As usual, human nature and fucksticks have ruined the message for everyone, giving the media everything they need on a silver platter to make them look like idiots. Knifing cops, raping others, doing drugs and loitering because they think it's just the cool thing to do.... Raging against the rich instead of raging against the broken system.... I could go on, but that about summarizes it. I'm for the Occupy movement, but I believe a lot of the occupy protesters don't have any fucking clue what it's about, or are completely skewed as to what it's about. The movement needs to start policing its own and stop giving up quality for sheer quantity.

That's basically how my mom said it....

just kidding.


I agree with you 100% however, where i dissagree is your comment about policing who protests. (to some extent) if they policed who was there, they would have less then half as many people showing up and protesting. The numbers make an impact, even if part of that group saw people standing around and were curious and walked in not knowing what was going on. Power in numbers. But with that comes stupidity, so it's sort of a catch-22.

[EINSER M]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

My "useless ass"?

You know nothing about me. Suffice it to say, I think I've done my part to make society better, and I continue to strive for that. You? What are you doing here? Defending trash that none of us want in society? That sounds about right.

Why would you protect these people? You want to give them all hugs until you realize they'd kill your ass for a dollar and then probably post it on YouTube or WSHH for teh lulz. Wake the fuck up and go see what real life is like and take a stroll around people like this. I guarantee you wouldn't stay steadfast in your opinion of them. You reek of privileged crusader shit. It's disgusting.

Don't you want society progress? It's analogous to a tumor in a human being. Kill the tumor, the human lives. Instead of confining them to areas of extreme violence, just fucking eliminate them. Whether that means pawning them on someone else, or just fucking killing them with a bullet that costs cents on the dollar, I don't give a fuck, and no one who would like society to progress should give a fuck either.

You can take your chances recycling violent felons in public. I'll take my chances dealing with cops. Good luck.

What exactly have YOU done for the law abiding citizens of this country, besides to fight for the "rights" of those trying to impede progress?

i'm with this guy
kill them all and bill their families for the bullets

[ideliver]

Originally Posted by EINSER M

i'm with this guy
kill them all and bill their families for the bullets

Except, you'll make their families instant millionaires

[NYCGP]

Originally Posted by ideliver

Except, you'll make their families instant millionaires

might be a better investment than 50k a year for life.... add inflation into the mix... Paying that family 1 million would probably be cheaper than putting that asshole into jail for the rest of his life..

[CollinsE90]

I agree with the ginger.

[ghosthi32]

Originally Posted by Emory335

Fail.

[immiketoo]

Originally Posted by Beemw335

Shooting him once or twice would have dropped. Him and he would most probably still be alive.
Most cops think theyre Gods, and that if even dare swing at them theyll kill you.
When a suspect has his back turned towards you because your partner shot him 5 times, it doesnt make sense to pull out your gun and finish him off with 5 more bullets, unless of course you want to kill him.

I had a longer reply in the works, but its not worth it. You are an idiot.

Originally Posted by ghosthi32

alright hippie. go swing at a cop and see whats happens

I'll give you a hint

Originally Posted by yakev724

I'm confused. It seems police are tazing when cuffing people and letting them cool down in cars is a logical option. Then here they're killing when tazing will incapacitate the suspect.

Though obviously the cop acted within his legal bounds in this case, the many publicized instances of police acting morally questionable is doing a lot of harm. They need to regain much of their lost respect, and I'm not sure this is possible given the availability of cell phone video

Though as someone posted, don't feel bad at all knowing he won't be taking up the state's resources. Just don't shoot him in front of the camera.

Police image is bad right now because of many things including readily available video, but video isn't the real problem. Its the fact that most of society believes that bad things don't happen as often as they do, and they don't understand that violence can only be dealt with by people who are ready to be more violent still.

The public also doesn't understand that the kind of personality required to do that may be less articulate or outwardly compassionate than your average office worker. People fear what they don't understand. Most people have never even been in a fight. So violence scares them, especially since the reality is so much different than television and the movies.

Now, throw video into the mix and all the ugly reality comes out for people to see from the comfort of their own homes. There's so much that goes into this equation, I could literally write a daily blog about it. I'll save you the boredom.

I tell my guys that if they're doing it right, video is your friend in court and is fun to watch later. The problem is that the less than spectacular members of our field stand out, while the men and women doing it properly are never recognized.

Its just like the cruise ship industry, fuck-ups stand out while all the rest go unnoticed. Worse, because we are held to a higher standard, anything we do wrong is scrutinized to the Nth degree.

Cops need to adjust to the video world, and we are notoriously slow at adapting. Video is here to stay and soon nothing anyone does will escape notice. These guys made hard decisions, and the uninformed here that are criticizing are clearly ignorant. All we can do is try and educate them.

Originally Posted by CollinsE90

I agree with the ginger.

[Beemw335]

Originally Posted by immiketoo

I had a longer reply in the works, but its not worth it. You are an idiot.

Says the idiot seeking relationship advice on a car forum...

[The Ghost of Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by Beemw335

Says the idiot seeking relationship advice on a car forum...

[SES_D]

are you guys serious.

why defend another dumb fuck messing up our society. clearly shows the guy was about to take a swing or taunt the cop with the swing for that matter. Partner did the right thing & made sure he won't ever do that kinda shit again. Is the guy carrying the crowbar (or whatever it is) life worth more when he clearly seems to want to harm others, or the guy protecting society? This is to show other mofo's if you gonna go around carrying a weapon, fucking other peoples shit up, then be ready to take what your dishing out.

It was kinda overkill though....lol. one or two shots would've been enough but he was probably "in the moment".

[Beemw335]

^ thats exactly what I said. He deserved to get shot, but they over did it, once he had his back thrned they should have stopped.
The guy was on drugs most prob. meth, he didnt even feel that taser lol

[ideliver]

Originally Posted by Beemw335

Says the idiot seeking relationship advice on a car forum...

You sir, are completely out of line. Immiketoo is a well respected member. He is knowledgable and articulate on many topics and gives reasoned, sound opinions.

The fact that he opened his heart honestly in the OT only solidifies my strong opinion of him. The fact that he is also a brave soul that is willing to protect us makes me feel safe.

As a private citizen that has sought additional training aid in my personal safety...if you are in fear of your life or your family members life...you shoot until that threat is neutralized. It doesn't matter if it's one or ten.... Deadly force is deadly force, the are no degrees of deadly force.

A double tap with my .45 to head/center mass (not routinely taught) if accurately placed with my 220 gr JHP will kill 95% of recipients. So your saying that this is okay in your book, but emptying the magazine when the assailant is still moving is not okay??

Both assailants are dead. Dead is dead.

[Beemw335]

Ya ya I know hes your buddy. Ive quoted him in other threads and have always been friendly.
I gave my opinion on the video and he called me an idiot, so I could care less about being "out of line".

[bmwmike335]

oh look, a bunch of tuff guys on an internet forum trashing the police for trying to save their own lives because some jackass with a metal tube bender decided to resist arrest, - after being tasered- and then attempted to cause great bodily injury to one of the officer with this weapon... I'm sorry if you don't see that as enough justification to shoot somebody. what the do you think cops carry guns for then, to look cool? No, its for that split second heat of the moment where they have to resort to the weapon.

let me see you tuff guys duke it out with another moron who has a metal hammer/pick whatever the fuck it was, or in fact, let me see you send ur dog running towards him so your dog can "bite" him and have its head bashed into pieces while you hide and run like a little bitch and call the cops.

/thread ended.

[lopealle]

What did i miss

[Blayne]

Originally Posted by lopealle

What did i miss

You missed a fair bit, but to say you missed it all ehhhh..... I'm gunna say there's probably some more entertainment left

[fatgrandma]

Originally Posted by lopealle

What did i miss

A bunch of grown up guys insulting each other, because they have different opinions on a youtube video.

[lopealle]

Originally Posted by fatgrandma

A bunch of grown up guys insulting each other, because they have different opinions on a youtube video.

Damn the good stuff

[fatgrandma]

Originally Posted by lopealle

Damn the good stuff

Don't worry, I assume it isn't quite over.

[ghosthi32]

i farted

[Templar]

I'm just gonna sit here and watch. Honestly, I think Beemw335 must be trying so hard to troll, because no one is that fucking stupid...

[Gregxi]

Originally Posted by fatgrandma

A bunch of grown up guys insulting each other, because they have different opinions on a youtube video.

I doubt it