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03-01-2013, 01:09 AM | #1 |
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ZL1 @ WSIR
Drove a bone stock ZL1 at Willow Springs International Raceway. Only got to do 3 laps, 1 of those was a warm up. Ran a 1:33:4.
Very impressive for a 100% stock car IMO. Fastest I have my boss302 is 1:32:8 with springs, sways on RS3 tires for some comparison. I think Steve Millen ran 1:36 in a bone stock M3. The ZL1 is very planted, and the interior is pretty nice IMO. A little dull to drive, just so smooth. Lol
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Awesome! That car is a hard act to follow. I need to hit the track with you one of these days
What tires are on zl1's?
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Definitely. Going to buttonwillow with speed district in march and may do WSIR redline time attack march
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American muscle. !!! One day as a weekend car
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Thanks for posting your impressions, OP. Exactly.
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impressive. i still will never like the camaro but i am a mustang convert for sure so thank god the 302 has a faster time ahhahah
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It was only 0.6s faster, the 302 was on a modified suspension with RS3 tires, and he only had the Camaro for 3 laps!!! Give the man time to get use to the car and I bet the Camaro is faster than the 302.
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Randy Pobst did a 1:27.67 in a stock 2011 M3 6 speed and a 1:22:7 in a Camaro SS 1LE with it's 285 square set up and magnetic ride control.
A 1:33 is about 4 seconds off what he did in an 11' V6 Mustang with the track pack, assuming we are talking about the same track
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So i'd assume Willow Springs International is just slightly longer? The videos of him running those times lack description just "Willow Springs"
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http://www.willowspringsraceway.com/page.php?id=25
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tell me about it! but what is more fun than an m3 or precise? not that tank.
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I'd disagree. There's 2-3 seconds in a E9x M3 just by going to a square set up and putting on stickier rubber. (275 or 285 square wheels and tires and some RS3's or RE11's) given a 1:40 ish lap times to start with (Road Atlanta for example). The reason I believe this is because I am a PCA, BMWCCA, SCCA, NASA instructor and i've had lots of seat time in various ones. They push bad in stock form, like every M3 except the E30 M3 and the E36 M3 for the 94-95 model years.
Also... An M3 is a 340-350whp / 260wt car A Boss is a 390+whp/350+ wt car They weigh the same, so the Boss has a significant power to weight advantage and even more significant torque to weight advantage. Laguna Seca Raceway is a good example to get my point across. That track favors power, big power with it's long sweeping corners. Here the 13' GT 500 beat the 13' ZL1, but on more complex courses we are seeing the opposite due the Chevy's grip and suspension advantage. Point is, cars with more power typically have the edge here. The Laguna Seca Boss with it's big splitter and X-Brace back seat ran a 1:41.06 to the M3's 1:42.96. Again on a track that favors power we have a 1.9 second difference but the M3 was without ZCP and had Pilot Sport 2's (circa 2004, ew..) compared to the Boss' PZero Corsa's. Doing something as simple as having a ZCP car with better factory tires like Pilot Super Sports or Corsa's even would drastically change the time for the M3 probably by a second or even more. That's a pretty small spread between the two cars My point, the cars are pretty close given the circumstances. You can't go wrong with either one. Both are faster then the CTS-V they tested in 2009 and have 3-4+ seconds on the Evo/Sti/Nismo 370Z scene with the same driver
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