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38 pages ugh, do you have direct links in that thread to independent before and after dyno charts. What road speeds/gear would the 14hp gain reflect, gotta be variable. |
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Water won't make it past your air filter, and will drain down an opening somewhere. There is moisture in the air to begin with, which makes it into the engine. That doesn't damage the internals or anything. There is a large front facing intake left bottom of the bumper by design anyway.
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At about 50mph+ my butt dyno tells me it's REALLY moving as opposed to just "moving" before. Under hard throttle the effect is even more pronounced.
I question dyno gains using an airscoop like this when it's not done in a wind tunnel. But this one is the real deal. |
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I don't think it's more direct--everything still goes through the airbox. I share some of the other's skepticism, but I'm not discounting it. Seems like something those German engineers could have figured out, though, especially if the aftermarket had already done it to the M5?!
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10-13-2008, 10:31 PM | #30 |
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Not really. By the time any water goes through the airbox and the throttle bodies, and gets into the cylinders it would be vaporized anyway, and hence moisture. If you have a lot of moisture, I guess that can affect combustion, but there is no way you'll get that much water/moisture in there just because you added these little scoops. Again, the front facing bumper intake must be taking in lots of water and other things. I stuck my hand in there and didn't run into any kind of filter or anything.
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had to chime in on this,
I have the RPi scoops on my E93- and at above 60mph(100kmh) you REALLY feel the power. I stay in 6th gear and gas it and it pulllllss harder then it did before the install! Great mod!! OP, is your new mod installed something that replaces the Air Scoops or it goes along with it??
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10-14-2008, 12:04 AM | #32 |
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Crap, what is the difference between these scoops and the 335 scoops? Eloy installed the 335 ones for me and said these were the ones for the M3, same thing.
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The M3 has a cone, the M5 flat filter, it does work better with the M5. It still provides a benefit, at least it does in my personal experience. I think the price is very relevant, who the hell wants the Gruppe M when you can get scoops, for what, 1/15 the cost? |
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10-14-2008, 01:04 AM | #35 |
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long tran has some of these scoops
I guess you guys are saying he's crazy too? I'm not saying we should buy w/e he buys but he deals with these cars allllllllll the time everyone with every mod comes to him so I assume he knows what works/what doesn't what's bad/good I'm sure he knew what they were before buying them...... I'm sure these work as tightie said
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me? i dont care to prove my self.. i'll let the product speak for itself when its done.. i stand by rpi and eloy.. im pretty sure many many people will too..
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You should pick up the phone and speak to Eloy.. I honestly got way too confused with everything you said on here. I'm more then positive he will explain it. There is power from the scoops, it will be the best bang for the buck too.. Sorry.
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A great product. I dont know about those gains why are the kidneys removed? Definatly better for your air intake for any of the doubters. Don't know how thats not understandable.
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the dyno posted above is the v2.. not the same ones you have.. he made these infront of my eyes for my car.
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The kidneys weren't in because we were test fitting the scoops... maybe one of the members that have the v1 can post some pictures..
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The gains show on the dyno and on my butt dyno. The real world gains are likely better than a fan on a dyno can achieve. These scoops are well documented in the M5/M6 world. Uh, thanks for the sarcasm but the M3 intake is cylindrical, not a flat filter. It goes all the way around with space inside, it isn't flat. I don't even know where this comment showing up as your quote came from, but I think getting the facts straight helps everyone, it doesn't hurt anyone. |
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335 scoops for sale! I need to go get these by November 1st... I called out some MB's to drag race at california speedway on the 1st. |
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