|
|
02-27-2012, 02:11 PM | #1 |
Lieutenant Colonel
394
Rep 1,519
Posts |
Dinan EDC coilover kit
I know I saw some info about this on here not too long ago, but I thought I'd provide an update. I was on the phone with Scott from Dinan today asking him about maxing the negative camber on my Dinan Stage III suspension. He mentioned that their new coilover system for the E9x M3 will be available in the next 60 days. It retains the stock EDC struts/shocks, so EDC remains functional, but the setup is reportedly more "track-focused" than their current Stage II/III suspension, without being harsh on the street like other coilovers may be.
I'm sure it will be expensive... |
02-27-2012, 02:43 PM | #4 | |
Captain
148
Rep 774
Posts
Drives: 21 X5 M50i
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: San Francisco, CA
|
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2012, 06:43 PM | #5 |
Major
87
Rep 1,253
Posts
Drives: F10535, E90M3, E30M3, E28M5
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Charlotte, NC
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2017 Alpina B6 GC [0.00]
2014 535xi M Sport [0.00] 2014 X3 3.5 M Sport [0.00] 2011 M3 E90 [9.74] 2007 Z4 M Coupe [7.00] 1990 M3 [9.50] 1988 M5 [10.00] |
paradocs98: I'm interested in hearing more about the Dinan Coilover. Please keep us posted. Also, I'm interested in knowing what did Scott say about max'ing the camber on the Dinan Stage III?
__________________
ESS VT-1 550 | M24 Oil Cooler | Fall Line Half Cage | RaceTech 4009W | 6 pt Harness | Lifeline Zero 360 Fire Suppression | Rear Seat Delete | Motion Control DA Dampers w/remote reservoirs | 900/650 Hyperco Springs | RD Sport Sway Bars | Brembo 380 BBK | GC Camber Plates | Hoosier R7 | Eisenmann Sport | Stack Gauges | Painted Challenge Front Lip | Painted ZCP Rear Spoiler | Xpel Ultimate Film | LuxAngelEyes |
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2012, 07:19 PM | #6 |
ESS Dreaming
27
Rep 870
Posts |
Dinan haters gonna hate. I personally thought my Dinan stg3 suspension was the best mod I've ever done on an e92 M. Anyone who hates Dinan has most likely never used their products. Just remember you get what you pay for and Dinan is a perfect example of that
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-03-2012, 07:31 PM | #7 | |
Grown Azz Man
430
Rep 3,021
Posts |
Quote:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=597975
__________________
2016 GT4.....Sapphire Blue Metallic, Platinum stitch Leather/Alcantara interior, Carbon Fiber Trim, PCM w/Nav, Guards Red Belts, 2 Zone Climate, Sport Chrono, LWB, Smokers Pack, Big Gas Tank, Light Design Pack, Bi-Xenon w/PDL, Auto Dim Mirror, Clear Side Markers, GTS Clear Taillights
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-04-2012, 02:59 PM | #8 | |
Lieutenant Colonel
394
Rep 1,519
Posts |
Quote:
In any case, Scott said that there are individual variations between cars, but I could expect maybe -2.2 to -2.4 out of the front. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-04-2012, 08:46 PM | #10 | |
Major
87
Rep 1,253
Posts
Drives: F10535, E90M3, E30M3, E28M5
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Charlotte, NC
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2017 Alpina B6 GC [0.00]
2014 535xi M Sport [0.00] 2014 X3 3.5 M Sport [0.00] 2011 M3 E90 [9.74] 2007 Z4 M Coupe [7.00] 1990 M3 [9.50] 1988 M5 [10.00] |
Quote:
Agreed! However what are your thoughts about the adjustable camber plates currently available? Therefore allowing your vericle to have two perfect worlds. Thanks for your thoughts - I'm deciding on my suspension upgrade for this track season. Sorry to go OT, PM me if you would prefer.
__________________
ESS VT-1 550 | M24 Oil Cooler | Fall Line Half Cage | RaceTech 4009W | 6 pt Harness | Lifeline Zero 360 Fire Suppression | Rear Seat Delete | Motion Control DA Dampers w/remote reservoirs | 900/650 Hyperco Springs | RD Sport Sway Bars | Brembo 380 BBK | GC Camber Plates | Hoosier R7 | Eisenmann Sport | Stack Gauges | Painted Challenge Front Lip | Painted ZCP Rear Spoiler | Xpel Ultimate Film | LuxAngelEyes |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-19-2012, 07:00 PM | #11 | |
Major
87
Rep 1,253
Posts
Drives: F10535, E90M3, E30M3, E28M5
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Charlotte, NC
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2017 Alpina B6 GC [0.00]
2014 535xi M Sport [0.00] 2014 X3 3.5 M Sport [0.00] 2011 M3 E90 [9.74] 2007 Z4 M Coupe [7.00] 1990 M3 [9.50] 1988 M5 [10.00] |
Quote:
Just talked to Scott, he was very helpful and informative. Dinan expects their EDC Coilover kit to be available in less than a month.
__________________
ESS VT-1 550 | M24 Oil Cooler | Fall Line Half Cage | RaceTech 4009W | 6 pt Harness | Lifeline Zero 360 Fire Suppression | Rear Seat Delete | Motion Control DA Dampers w/remote reservoirs | 900/650 Hyperco Springs | RD Sport Sway Bars | Brembo 380 BBK | GC Camber Plates | Hoosier R7 | Eisenmann Sport | Stack Gauges | Painted Challenge Front Lip | Painted ZCP Rear Spoiler | Xpel Ultimate Film | LuxAngelEyes |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-19-2012, 07:06 PM | #12 |
Grown Azz Man
430
Rep 3,021
Posts |
Same info I'm getting from my contact.....price might be heavy though I should now more next week...........Phil
__________________
2016 GT4.....Sapphire Blue Metallic, Platinum stitch Leather/Alcantara interior, Carbon Fiber Trim, PCM w/Nav, Guards Red Belts, 2 Zone Climate, Sport Chrono, LWB, Smokers Pack, Big Gas Tank, Light Design Pack, Bi-Xenon w/PDL, Auto Dim Mirror, Clear Side Markers, GTS Clear Taillights
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-19-2012, 08:02 PM | #13 | |
Major General
1571
Rep 8,076
Posts
Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, TX
|
Interested to see what Dinan does with the EDC shocks. IMO, you would have to play with the EDC settings to compensate for the spring rate changes (increased I would imagine)...then I think you would see a significant improvement.
I would like to know if Dinan plans to release some custom valved Koni's like they have for most other non-EDC models. Quote:
Plus, the big advantage of camber plates is that you can dial in more camber AND toe out for the track and then dial out the toe and decrease camber for the street.
__________________
2018 F30 320iX Melbourne Red
2011 E90 M3 Monte Carlo Blue 2004 E46 M3 Imola Red 2000 E36/7 Z3 Steel Blue |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-19-2012, 08:45 PM | #14 |
Major
87
Rep 1,253
Posts
Drives: F10535, E90M3, E30M3, E28M5
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Charlotte, NC
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2017 Alpina B6 GC [0.00]
2014 535xi M Sport [0.00] 2014 X3 3.5 M Sport [0.00] 2011 M3 E90 [9.74] 2007 Z4 M Coupe [7.00] 1990 M3 [9.50] 1988 M5 [10.00] |
^ Dinan said their new EDC Coilover has been tested with an adjustable camber plate. This would be interesting if adjustable camber plates were included in the kit.
__________________
ESS VT-1 550 | M24 Oil Cooler | Fall Line Half Cage | RaceTech 4009W | 6 pt Harness | Lifeline Zero 360 Fire Suppression | Rear Seat Delete | Motion Control DA Dampers w/remote reservoirs | 900/650 Hyperco Springs | RD Sport Sway Bars | Brembo 380 BBK | GC Camber Plates | Hoosier R7 | Eisenmann Sport | Stack Gauges | Painted Challenge Front Lip | Painted ZCP Rear Spoiler | Xpel Ultimate Film | LuxAngelEyes |
Appreciate
0
|
03-20-2012, 06:03 AM | #15 |
Major General
2164
Rep 5,549
Posts |
If it comes with adjustable camber plates then it will be very similar to what GC already offers and TCK is about to release. I do understand why people want to maintain EDC functionality but, IMO, it's a huge compromise if you are thinking about tracking your car. Like bigjae1976 has already stated the damping characteristics of the EDC struts/shocks really needs to be altered to handle proper dual-purpose spring rates. There are better dual-purpose suspension options out there, although you'll lose EDC. BTW, I have noting against Dinan - these comments apply to all sleeve-over kits.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-20-2012, 08:33 AM | #16 | |
Major General
1571
Rep 8,076
Posts
Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, TX
|
Quote:
Not sure about how the EDC shocks work so not sure if that is possible.
__________________
2018 F30 320iX Melbourne Red
2011 E90 M3 Monte Carlo Blue 2004 E46 M3 Imola Red 2000 E36/7 Z3 Steel Blue |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-20-2012, 08:43 AM | #17 | |
Major General
2164
Rep 5,549
Posts |
Quote:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...9&postcount=12 Basically it wouldn't be worth it... |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-20-2012, 08:18 PM | #18 |
Major
87
Rep 1,253
Posts
Drives: F10535, E90M3, E30M3, E28M5
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Charlotte, NC
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2017 Alpina B6 GC [0.00]
2014 535xi M Sport [0.00] 2014 X3 3.5 M Sport [0.00] 2011 M3 E90 [9.74] 2007 Z4 M Coupe [7.00] 1990 M3 [9.50] 1988 M5 [10.00] |
Interesting.....Scott at Dinan said the ZCP EDC settings and shocks were very good. I may have misunderstood him but I believe he said they (Dinan) decided to leave them alone when developing their newest kit.
dbarnes: I understand your comments about sleeve-over kits so please help educate me, what would be the process of adjusting the coilover setting? Follow up question: I understand Coilover kits can be harsh. (Sorry to go OT, you can PM me if you wish) For clarity, I am not a Dinan Fan nor do I have anything against them, I'm just trying to understand how I can obtain more mechanical grip at the track. Last year my new SC was overpowering the suspension and tires making my track time more frustrating than fun. Thank you, Chris
__________________
ESS VT-1 550 | M24 Oil Cooler | Fall Line Half Cage | RaceTech 4009W | 6 pt Harness | Lifeline Zero 360 Fire Suppression | Rear Seat Delete | Motion Control DA Dampers w/remote reservoirs | 900/650 Hyperco Springs | RD Sport Sway Bars | Brembo 380 BBK | GC Camber Plates | Hoosier R7 | Eisenmann Sport | Stack Gauges | Painted Challenge Front Lip | Painted ZCP Rear Spoiler | Xpel Ultimate Film | LuxAngelEyes |
Appreciate
0
|
03-21-2012, 07:08 AM | #19 | |
Major General
2164
Rep 5,549
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-21-2012, 10:47 AM | #20 | |
Major General
592
Rep 5,396
Posts |
Quote:
It doesnt matter if they are good quality or not. If you drop the car significantly, you need to shorten the shocks and struts accordingly. Not doing so is a half ass solution, bottom line and needs to be priced as such.
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-23-2012, 11:13 PM | #21 | |
Private First Class
30
Rep 199
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2022 BMW X6M Competition Alpine White/Black Leather |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-24-2012, 08:54 AM | #22 | |
Major General
592
Rep 5,396
Posts |
Quote:
eibach springs are ok (i have them) because the spring rates are similar to stock, but more importantly, the drop is very very mild. The same can be said for Dinan springs. This is why both setups ride very similar to stock, with a small reduction of body roll and a little better turn in provided you have good tires. The springs with lower drops, like H and R, do not ride as well as these setups for that very reason. The reason I think the coilver setup up is BS without matching shocks and struts is because i dont know what the difference would be from springs alone? Maybe height adjustment? Well all that is is adding a spring perch to kit. A true coilver system includes matching springs, shocks and struts. Like KW, like TCK, like AST, like Bistein.... This dinan setup, if the comments in this thread are true about their upcoming product, is a half ass solution, which is ok, unless it is marketed as a true coilover at coilover prices. For street purposes, and mild track use, the eibach springs are great. I think the ride quality is identical to stock, just a slight increase in "bounce" over larger bumps, but nothing worth crying about.
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|