Found a Frozen Grey M3 for sale $95K, 200 miles

M3Bahn · 03-06-2011, 03:46 PM

Weren't they $85K originally?

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...r_id=292717130

signes · 03-06-2011, 04:50 PM

RayC · 03-06-2011, 04:54 PM

I like the way it Frozen Gray looks, but you would have to pay me to rock that paint job everyday. :/

ase2dais · 03-06-2011, 05:00 PM

I dont get it, what so special about Frozen M

richardbb85 · 03-06-2011, 05:02 PM

yea.......no thanks

RayC · 03-06-2011, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ase2dais

I dont get it, what so special about Frozen M

Limited production run.

But maintaining the paint is a total PITA.

ase2dais · 03-06-2011, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayC

Limited production run.

But maintaining the paint is a total PITA.

They can keep it!

mdosu · 03-06-2011, 05:11 PM

or is it worth one million dollars!!!!!

ase2dais · 03-06-2011, 05:21 PM

ROFL

Legion5 · 03-06-2011, 06:19 PM

Actually matte paint is EASIER to maintain than normal paint, it doesn't show light scratches, swirl marks or cob webs. This makes it significantly easier to care for. You just can't put wax on it but you don't need to because it won't show the damage that wax protects from anyway. Meaning it saves you work both from protecting against light scratches and fixing them, which is pretty much the bulk of the concern when caring for auto paint. BMW's convoluted care instructions are the exact same as what you're supposed to do with normal paint, plus they add not to wax it, it's just that they are being overly pedantic about their instructions. This gave people the completely wrong idea (and probably made them feel better that they don't have a Frozen Gray car)

This myth needs to stop being perpetuated. The idea that matte paint is harder or a PITA to care for is based on zero experience with it. It's like someone saying BMW's are hard to break in because of BMW's overly German/pedantic/legalese/specific break in instructions. You actually can drive your frozen car how you want, and break in your BMW how you want aswell, I say that as someone who's worked at a high end body shop dealing with matte cars, and worked for a racing team with breaking in engines.

saeedg48 · 03-06-2011, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdosu

or is it worth one million dollars!!!!!

BMWBoss · 03-06-2011, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdosu

or is it worth one million dollars!!!!!

LMFAO

RoundTwo · 03-06-2011, 06:54 PM

Then the guys on top gear just completely lied about the maintenance for matte paints?

SECRET M · 03-06-2011, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legion5

Actually matte paint is EASIER to maintain than normal paint, it doesn't show light scratches, swirl marks or cob webs. This makes it significantly easier to care for. You just can't put wax on it but you don't need to because it won't show the damage that wax protects from anyway. Meaning it saves you work both from protecting against light scratches and fixing them, which is pretty much the bulk of the concern when caring for auto paint. BMW's convoluted care instructions are the exact same as what you're supposed to do with normal paint, plus they add not to wax it, it's just that they are being overly pedantic about their instructions. This gave people the completely wrong idea (and probably made them feel better that they don't have a Frozen Gray car)

This myth needs to stop being perpetuated. The idea that matte paint is harder or a PITA to care for is based on zero experience with it. It's like someone saying BMW's are hard to break in because of BMW's overly German/pedantic/legalese/specific break in instructions. You actually can drive your frozen car how you want, and break in your BMW how you want aswell, I say that as someone who's worked at a high end body shop dealing with matte cars, and worked for a racing team with breaking in engines.

and where did you get your information? what about frozen black? i can't imagine it's EASIER to clean bird shit off a matte paint finish versus a normal high gloss paint finish.

Gearhead999s · 03-06-2011, 07:05 PM

These matte colours are not exactly rare as I would bet there are 7 or 8 for sale at our local dealers within a 30 minute radius.Not that I wish to own one!

esquire · 03-06-2011, 07:13 PM

why is no one commenting on the fact that the price is a COMPLETE RIP OFF. The seller thinks his car is an appreciating asset when its not. It's a car. And its no Enzo.

Not to mention that there have been murmurings that BMW will be offering Frozen Grey as a more available option in the future. I can also say, that in my conversations with BMW Individual, that they will allow Frozen Grey again for the upcoming model year. In other words, Frozen Grey M3's won't be as limited as they once were.

signes · 03-06-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire

why is no one commenting on the fact that the price is a COMPLETE RIP OFF.

See above, everybody agrees. The wording in the listing is absurd, too. Even if they never made another one here, it would never be worth $95k.

BTW, love the Dakar...

ES_TRADER · 03-06-2011, 08:27 PM

Looks like a scam listing

M3Bahn · 03-06-2011, 10:27 PM

BMW Frozen Gray M3 paint a pain, owners must sign agreement about its care?

If you were one of the 30 Bimmerphiles to snag a 2011 Frozen Gray M3 Coupe last month, expect to fill out another round of paperwork before you take delivery of your new matte gray baby.

BMW is apparently requiring all owners to sign a "maintenance agreement" that insists the M3 is never polished or waxed, ran through an automatic car wash or even strongly rubbed. Additionally, BMW politely asks that you immediately remove bugs, bird droppings, tree sap and fuel spills with a soft sponge, and naturally, dealers are more than willing to sell you appropriate products for maintaining the matte finish.

According to enthusiast site Bimmerfest, BMW explicitly states the M3's warranty won't cover any damage due to owner neglect and it notes that all exterior repairs must be performed by a BMW-authorized shop. What's more, if you don't sign the agreement, no Frozen Grey M3 for you. That's a lot of disclaimers. All of which could be easily solved for less if you simply went down to your local custom vinyl shop and wrapped your (decidedly less expensive) standard M3 in a 3M coating. But how do you put a price on exclusivity?

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/13/b...greement-abou/

H2 · 03-06-2011, 10:55 PM

I believe the owner has been trying to sell this ever since he got it in July/August of last year. It should be #20 on this list.

JIO · 03-07-2011, 02:28 AM

Good luck trying to sell an $80K M3 for $100K. I'll sell my Space Gray M3 for $90K...I'll call it "Shiny Frozen Gray".

ooowowizstev · 03-07-2011, 02:35 AM

Sold to me!

03-06-2011, 03:46 PM	#1
M3Bahn Lieutenant 321 Rep 483 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ATL iTrader: (0)	Found a Frozen Grey M3 for sale $95K, 200 miles Weren't they $85K originally? http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.js...r_id=292717130
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RayC Lieutenant 13 Rep 544 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Centreville, VA iTrader: (4)	I like the way it Frozen Gray looks, but you would have to pay me to rock that paint job everyday. :/
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ase2dais //Mdicted 347 Rep 9,988 Posts Drives: a Cop Magnet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: 495 Ring iTrader: (18) Garage List 2009 e92 M3 DCT CF ... [10.00] 2015 S-Works Roubaix [0.00] 2013 Trek Madone 5.9 [9.50] 2012 Scott - CR1-Pro [10.00] 2008 e92 M3 6MT (Up ... [10.00] 2002 e46 M3 Cabriol ... [7.00] 2006 e90-325i (DD) [7.00] 2002 e39 M5 (retired) [9.50]	I dont get it, what so special about Frozen M __________________ Oo\(lll)'(lll)/oO : 2009-e92 ///M3 SpaceGry DCT CF Rf/Trim ZTP ZPP ZCW Sat/PrmSd : \_lOOl___lOOl_/<< Clickies
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richardbb85 Lieutenant Colonel 104 Rep 1,653 Posts Drives: e92 m3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: annandale, va iTrader: (0)	yea.......no thanks __________________ 2011 E92 Space Grey/black + Tech + Premi + Heated Seats
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03-06-2011, 06:19 PM	#10
Legion5 Major 175 Rep 1,379 Posts Drives: e92 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (12)	Actually matte paint is EASIER to maintain than normal paint, it doesn't show light scratches, swirl marks or cob webs. This makes it significantly easier to care for. You just can't put wax on it but you don't need to because it won't show the damage that wax protects from anyway. Meaning it saves you work both from protecting against light scratches and fixing them, which is pretty much the bulk of the concern when caring for auto paint. BMW's convoluted care instructions are the exact same as what you're supposed to do with normal paint, plus they add not to wax it, it's just that they are being overly pedantic about their instructions. This gave people the completely wrong idea (and probably made them feel better that they don't have a Frozen Gray car) This myth needs to stop being perpetuated. The idea that matte paint is harder or a PITA to care for is based on zero experience with it. It's like someone saying BMW's are hard to break in because of BMW's overly German/pedantic/legalese/specific break in instructions. You actually can drive your frozen car how you want, and break in your BMW how you want aswell, I say that as someone who's worked at a high end body shop dealing with matte cars, and worked for a racing team with breaking in engines. __________________ Clean cars are happy cars! CANON PHOTOGRAPHER Last edited by Legion5; 03-06-2011 at 06:25 PM..
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RoundTwo Riff Raff 31 Rep 368 Posts Drives: 2014 8 spd bicycle Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 E92 M3 [0.00] 2004 325Ci [0.00]	Then the guys on top gear just completely lied about the maintenance for matte paints? __________________
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Gearhead999s Major General 814 Rep 7,888 Posts Drives: RR Velar R=Dynamic M2C R1200GS Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	These matte colours are not exactly rare as I would bet there are 7 or 8 for sale at our local dealers within a 30 minute radius.Not that I wish to own one!
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esquire Brigadier General 478 Rep 3,044 Posts Drives: 2011 Dakar Yellow M3, 2018 M5 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orange County, California iTrader: (0)	why is no one commenting on the fact that the price is a COMPLETE RIP OFF. The seller thinks his car is an appreciating asset when its not. It's a car. And its no Enzo. Not to mention that there have been murmurings that BMW will be offering Frozen Grey as a more available option in the future. I can also say, that in my conversations with BMW Individual, that they will allow Frozen Grey again for the upcoming model year. In other words, Frozen Grey M3's won't be as limited as they once were. __________________ [ESS VT2-625] [Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust] [KW Clubsports] [OSS Angel Eyes] [Revinora r-CRT Lip] [Vorsteiner Boot] [Challenge Race Diffuser] [See the Build Thread HERE]
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M3Bahn Lieutenant 321 Rep 483 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ATL iTrader: (0)	BMW Frozen Gray M3 paint a pain, owners must sign agreement about its care? If you were one of the 30 Bimmerphiles to snag a 2011 Frozen Gray M3 Coupe last month, expect to fill out another round of paperwork before you take delivery of your new matte gray baby. BMW is apparently requiring all owners to sign a "maintenance agreement" that insists the M3 is never polished or waxed, ran through an automatic car wash or even strongly rubbed. Additionally, BMW politely asks that you immediately remove bugs, bird droppings, tree sap and fuel spills with a soft sponge, and naturally, dealers are more than willing to sell you appropriate products for maintaining the matte finish. According to enthusiast site Bimmerfest, BMW explicitly states the M3's warranty won't cover any damage due to owner neglect and it notes that all exterior repairs must be performed by a BMW-authorized shop. What's more, if you don't sign the agreement, no Frozen Grey M3 for you. That's a lot of disclaimers. All of which could be easily solved for less if you simply went down to your local custom vinyl shop and wrapped your (decidedly less expensive) standard M3 in a 3M coating. But how do you put a price on exclusivity? http://www.autoblog.com/2010/07/13/b...greement-abou/
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H2 Second Lieutenant 43 Rep 259 Posts Drives: LSB E92 M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	I believe the owner has been trying to sell this ever since he got it in July/August of last year. It should be #20 on this list. __________________ Laguna Seca Blue E92 M3 / Individual M3 picture threads - interior, exterior
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03-07-2011, 02:28 AM	#21
JIO Captain 48 Rep 636 Posts Drives: '09 Space Gray E92 M3 w/DCT Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Eugene, Oregon iTrader: (0)	Good luck trying to sell an $80K M3 for $100K. I'll sell my Space Gray M3 for $90K...I'll call it "Shiny Frozen Gray".
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