ess 625 m3

andrewkd16 · 05-08-2015, 06:40 PM

I just installed my 625 kit and currently doing the break in driving. What would normal operating temps range if driving with normal shift around 3 to 5k? I am in Atlanta and temps are mid 80 degree.

I already posted that I noticed a slight increase in oil temp when BMW went from Castrol to this new Shell oil.

Patrón · 05-08-2015, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewkd16

I just installed my 625 kit and currently doing the break in driving. What would normal operating temps range if driving with normal shift around 3 to 5k? I am in Atlanta and temps are mid 80 degree.

I already posted that I noticed a slight increase in oil temp when BMW went from Castrol to this new Shell oil.

Just remember the heat exchanger blocks the oil cooler so in my opinion the oil gets hot quicker and at a higher temp than normal.

squartus · 05-08-2015, 11:19 PM

Almost never see mine go past 220, and when I do its when im stuck in traffic in 90+ heat. At speed in the same heat keepin it over 5k RPM down back roads she stays right on the 220 mark.

BobS · 05-09-2015, 07:31 AM

My car stays around 210, don't really notice a difference from when it was stock. Especially if your not pushing it as your saying.

BrewRifle · 05-09-2015, 07:51 AM

210-220 for me. Very much in line with stock.

CIFUM3 · 05-09-2015, 08:33 AM

Mine hardly ever goes pass the 220 mark when it does is because I'm sitting in traffic, once I'm moving it drops bellow 220.. Just installed mine less than a week ago

andrewkd16 · 05-09-2015, 10:15 AM

Ok mine sits around the 210 mark as well maybe a slight tick over for most part right on though. Just wondering since before this kit and this new old I would sit well below 210 like 200 or 195

Patrón · 05-09-2015, 12:25 PM

before my install i would typically stay a few mm below the 210 center mark. now it seems to run there in the center or 3-5mm past the center mark. especially in traffic like others have mentioned. i'm in the south and temp have only risen to mid 80s. i'm worried about the 90-110 temps in rush hour traffic.

Sered · 05-09-2015, 06:24 PM

Just because the HE sits in front doesn't mean it's going to prevent the oil cooler from doing its job. The oil cooler tstat targets a 210deg oil temp I do believe. Adding a bit of air restriction isn't going to suddenly prevent that from working.

Pro-AM3 · 05-09-2015, 08:55 PM

Ive seen 5-6 Vortech based kits that run 220-230 on normal basis, and 2 Evolve kits and 2 AA kits that run 205-210. Take it for what its worth, just my observation

jdamore · 05-10-2015, 02:02 AM

Do you guys ever watch Intake Air Temps?

Before the supercharger, IAT was usually near ambient temp.

With the 625, IAT's are typically about 20-30F hotter than ambient for me. The hotter the ambient, the larger the delta

andrewkd16 · 05-10-2015, 02:28 PM

I need to get some gauge to monitor what are most running with supercharged m3s?

81bear · 05-10-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewkd16

I need to get some gauge to monitor what are most running with supercharged m3s?

P3 with IAT reading

Sered · 05-10-2015, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jdamore

Do you guys ever watch Intake Air Temps?

Before the supercharger, IAT was usually near ambient temp.

With the 625, IAT's are typically about 20-30F hotter than ambient for me. The hotter the ambient, the larger the delta

Yes, I think nearly everyone watches iats. And yes about 25 degrees F above ambient is pretty common.

BobS · 05-10-2015, 07:30 PM

20-25 above ambient is common when running a supercharger.

Sales@Alekshop · 05-11-2015, 11:30 AM

210-220 oil temps are common with stock cooling. We see about a 15% decrease in temps with our oil cooler and quicker recovery times. AIT's as others have said are 20-30 deg average over ambient depending on the kit.

Patrón · 05-11-2015, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sales@Alekshop

210-220 oil temps are common with stock cooling. We see about a 15% decrease in temps with our oil cooler and quicker recovery times. AIT's as others have said are 20-30 deg average over ambient depending on the kit.

Alek, how much capacity does your cooler add? have owner's with ESS vt2 kits had problems with the heat exchanger mounting in front of your oil cooler (is your cooler thickness affecting the exchanger mounting?).

81bear · 05-11-2015, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Patrón

Alek, how much capacity does your cooler add? have owner's with ESS vt2 kits had problems with the heat exchanger mounting in front of your oil cooler (is your cooler thickness affecting the exchanger mounting?).

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ght=oil+cooler

80% larger core and an additional oil capacity of 2qts.

They also have test fitted on VT2 ESS cars with no issue.

Patrón · 05-11-2015, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 81bear

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ght=oil+cooler

80% larger core and an additional oil capacity of 2qts.

They also have test fitted on VT2 ESS cars with no issue.

thank you for the information. i don't track my car but this seems to be a nice part to keep oil temps at or below 210.

Sales@Alekshop · 05-12-2015, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrón

Alek, how much capacity does your cooler add? have owner's with ESS vt2 kits had problems with the heat exchanger mounting in front of your oil cooler (is your cooler thickness affecting the exchanger mounting?).

+2 quarts is added to the system. We have installed several coolers with ESS kits and they fit correctly. We did engineer the cooler around fitting with the ESS kit as it is the supercharger system we recommend for our customers.

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andrewkd16 Second Lieutenant 44 Rep 255 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW M3 E92 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	ess 625 m3 I just installed my 625 kit and currently doing the break in driving. What would normal operating temps range if driving with normal shift around 3 to 5k? I am in Atlanta and temps are mid 80 degree. I already posted that I noticed a slight increase in oil temp when BMW went from Castrol to this new Shell oil.
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squartus Major 314 Rep 1,017 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 M3 6MT Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Mississippi iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 E92 BMW M3 [10.00]	Almost never see mine go past 220, and when I do its when im stuck in traffic in 90+ heat. At speed in the same heat keepin it over 5k RPM down back roads she stays right on the 220 mark. __________________ 4.4L LC stroker/ESS VT2-625/Volk te37 sl's/AA exhaust/DSS Carbon Fiber driveshaft/ARH Headers.. etc
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BobS Colonel 97 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern NJ iTrader: (0)	My car stays around 210, don't really notice a difference from when it was stock. Especially if your not pushing it as your saying. __________________ ESS 650 ACM-R Upgrades
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BrewRifle Lieutenant Colonel 420 Rep 1,678 Posts Drives: 2011 MCB E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Austin, Texas iTrader: (4) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 [7.56] 2013 BMW X3 35i [0.00] 2009 BMW 135i [8.00]	210-220 for me. Very much in line with stock. __________________ 2011 Monte Carlo Blue E92 ///M3 - ESS VT2-625
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CIFUM3 Captain 103 Rep 999 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Goodyear iTrader: (0)	Mine hardly ever goes pass the 220 mark when it does is because I'm sitting in traffic, once I'm moving it drops bellow 220.. Just installed mine less than a week ago __________________ Performance ESS 625 VT2 Supercharger - CAE Shifter - Revinora race+ axle back - Macht Schnell down pipes - SOSI X-pipe Looks M colors grill - CF trunk - Sapphire Blue Forgestars F14
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andrewkd16 Second Lieutenant 44 Rep 255 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW M3 E92 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	Ok mine sits around the 210 mark as well maybe a slight tick over for most part right on though. Just wondering since before this kit and this new old I would sit well below 210 like 200 or 195
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Patrón PAZUZU 545 Rep 2,058 Posts Drives: '15 M4 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: San Antonio, TX iTrader: (1) Garage List 2015 BMW M4 [0.00] 2009 BMW M3 [10.00]	before my install i would typically stay a few mm below the 210 center mark. now it seems to run there in the center or 3-5mm past the center mark. especially in traffic like others have mentioned. i'm in the south and temp have only risen to mid 80s. i'm worried about the 90-110 temps in rush hour traffic. __________________ 2009 M3 DCT ESS625+ SOLD 2015 M4 BSM/Silverstone F4LCON @texasMclub IG @jagemoets
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Sered Major 146 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 08 E90 335i Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbourne, FL iTrader: (3)	Just because the HE sits in front doesn't mean it's going to prevent the oil cooler from doing its job. The oil cooler tstat targets a 210deg oil temp I do believe. Adding a bit of air restriction isn't going to suddenly prevent that from working.
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Pro-AM3 Lieutenant 71 Rep 460 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Dover, DE iTrader: (0)	Ive seen 5-6 Vortech based kits that run 220-230 on normal basis, and 2 Evolve kits and 2 AA kits that run 205-210. Take it for what its worth, just my observation
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jdamore Captain 433 Rep 855 Posts Drives: 2008 e92 M3 Join Date: May 2013 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (4)	Do you guys ever watch Intake Air Temps? Before the supercharger, IAT was usually near ambient temp. With the 625, IAT's are typically about 20-30F hotter than ambient for me. The hotter the ambient, the larger the delta __________________ -- 08 JB e92 6MT ///M3 ESS VT2-625 --
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andrewkd16 Second Lieutenant 44 Rep 255 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW M3 E92 Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (2)	I need to get some gauge to monitor what are most running with supercharged m3s?
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BobS Colonel 97 Rep 2,002 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Southern NJ iTrader: (0)	20-25 above ambient is common when running a supercharger. __________________ ESS 650 ACM-R Upgrades
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Sales@Alekshop 145 Rep 170 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: California iTrader: (0)	210-220 oil temps are common with stock cooling. We see about a 15% decrease in temps with our oil cooler and quicker recovery times. AIT's as others have said are 20-30 deg average over ambient depending on the kit.
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