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      05-24-2011, 07:30 AM   #1
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AA Stage 2+ & VT1 535

Found Dyno runs for both cars in the Dyno Data Base and figured i would share.

Info :Same dyno tested 24hrs apart at Newtech Performance in the bay area.


Active Stage 2+ 625 HP @ 7-7.5 psi
Manual transmission
Pump 91 octane + water meth
Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust

463 whp SAE



ESS VT1-535 535 HP @ 4.5-5 psi
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Pump 91 octane
Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust

471 whp SAE
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      05-24-2011, 08:22 AM   #2
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nice find! who's dynos are these?
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      05-24-2011, 08:51 AM   #3
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Thanks for deliberately misleading the consumer again in this ongoing mission to re-assure yourself you made the right decision. The information posted above is misleading and not a direct reflection of how much power these cars make. A thread will be posted later today to give a better idea of how the Active Autowerke system performs.

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Thanks for deliberately misleading the consumer again in this ongoing mission to re-assure yourself you made the right decision. The information posted above is misleading and not a direct reflection of how much power these cars make. A thread will be posted later today to give a better idea of how the Active Autowerke system performs.

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Hey Omar, im not posting this to cause drama..............im looking for answers why a great looking kit @ the advertized PSI wont put down the right HP .
Is there a Boost leak,is there something that got screwed up during the install ????
i know that those kits werent installed @ your shop so you wont be able to answer those questions unless you have the car infront of you.
So plz,dont take this the wrong way,its posted on the Dyno Database.
Im just looking for answers Omar !!
And BTW,i met Akash on Sunday and loved his car,AA SC kit and sound !!!

Thanks !!
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nice find! who's dynos are these?
Dunno but found em while looking for my own Dyno runs .
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no disrespect to anyone, but i believe that the ess dyno says 471, not 481..
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      05-24-2011, 09:10 AM   #7
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LOL... I've been in AND driven IMG's car...Trust me, he's not looking for anyyyy reassurance he made the right decision.
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no disrespect to anyone, but i believe that the ess dyno says 471, not 481..
Yes ,Fixed !!
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Thanks for deliberately misleading the consumer again in this ongoing mission to re-assure yourself you made the right decision. The information posted above is misleading and not a direct reflection of how much power these cars make. A thread will be posted later today to give a better idea of how the Active Autowerke system performs.

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So go lay down a trap in the 130s, that should shut all of the haters up!
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no disrespect to anyone, but i believe that the ess dyno says 471, not 481..
Yeah I noticed that too. My AA Stage 1 kit made 466 rwhp/321 rwtq on 91 with full AA exhaust w/ HFC's. It will be dyno'd again when I go stage 2 which should hopefully be soon.
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Yeah I noticed that too. My AA Stage 1 kit made 466 rwhp/321 rwtq on 91 with full AA exhaust w/ HFC's. It will be dyno'd again when I go stage 2 which should hopefully be soon.
What does ur stage 1 run for PSI ???
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As much as I think Aa makes a good product and has an amazing kit, I do like what the ess puts out at lower boost and without meth,
Not bashing Aa as watchin there videos were what caused me to get a sc, an if there kit has been out earlier I probably would have considered it
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What does ur stage 1 run for PSI ???
I dont have a boost guage yet - should hopefully be here this week (it shipped late last week). I think it is supposed to be around 5 or 5.5.
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I dont have a boost guage yet - should hopefully be here this week (it shipped late last week). I think it is supposed to be around 5 or 5.5.
Can u post your Dyno Graph ?
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Can u post your Dyno Graph ?
I dont have it electronically - but I will find the graph and scan it later.

Here is a vid of the pull - You can see the graph on the monitor


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All company's are great in their own way ,
What does the active 625 kit cost and what does the ESS 535 kit cost ? So far their is a 90 HP advantage VS power @ a 3psi difference for the Entry line ESS kit .
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I think theres about a 4-5g differed between there stge one and the 535, not sure
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I dont have it electronically - but I will find the graph and scan it later.

Here is a vid of the pull - You can see the graph on the monitor


Thank u for posting !!! was that SAE or STD .
Also your car,kit seems to be working perfect and the reason i posted the dyno comparo is tryin to figure out whats the issue with the Stage 2+ cause there are some stage 2+running 93 octane and they didnt put down much more power than you.do you get my point ???
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Thank u for posting !!! was that SAE or STD .
Also your car,kit seems to be working perfect and the reason i posted the dyno comparo is tryin to figure out whats the issue with the Stage 2+ cause there are some stage 2+running 93 octane and they didnt put down much more power than you.do you get my point ???

SAE - I get what you are saying, but to be honest, from the outside it looks like a bunch of the ESS guys seem insecure and bash everyone else (just an observation) and was one of the reasons I never considered ESS. I dont doubt that ESS has a great kit, but so do the others.

The point of S/C'ing this car is to enjoy it and have fun. I track my car regularly and have passed many cars that have much more hp (and also been passed by cars with less for that matter!) The thing I love about my kit (obviously cant comment on the others as I havent driven them) is how it really keeps the characteristics of the OEM feel.

I wish more people would just have fun enjoying their cars instead of arguing on the internet, it really gets old.
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I think theres about a 4-5g differed between there stge one and the 535, not sure
Wow a set of nice wheels
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Mhm, and img has no reason to feel insecure about his kit trust me both company's make great products but at the end of the day ess has a cheaper kit with better results and has proven to be reliable with no issues at all, and that's why counts when buying one of these
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SAE - I get what you are saying, but to be honest, from the outside it looks like a bunch of the ESS guys seem insecure and bash everyone else (just an observation) and was one of the reasons I never considered ESS. I dont doubt that ESS has a great kit, but so do the others.

The point of S/C'ing this car is to enjoy it and have fun. I track my car regularly and have passed many cars that have much more hp (and also been passed by cars with less for that matter!) The thing I love about my kit (obviously cant comment on the others as I havent driven them) is how it really keeps the characteristics of the OEM feel.

I wish more people would just have fun enjoying their cars instead of arguing on the internet, it really gets old.
Active is a good company no doubt about that !
But can you honesty sit there and tell everyone that getting 468whp for a kit claiming 625chp @ the price you paid a solid choice ??
I would be a little pissed if it were me ....
Then again maybe we all are jumping the gun and you might just have a boost/vaccum leak of some sort...

Good luck figuring it out ! :cheers:
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