BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Engine, Transmission, Exhaust, Drivetrain, ECU Software Modifications
 
BPM
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-05-2010, 06:56 PM   #1
gishdonald
Registered
2
Rep
1
Posts

Drives: 2009BMW M3 COUPE
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: MURRIETA,CA

iTrader: (0)

European Air Box

I Was Searching Web Sites For Air Filters,and On Macht Schnell's Site,it Has A Note That Says:us 2010 Models Will Now Use The European Airbox And Will Require The Eu Filter Adapter To Be Installed.does Anyone Know About This,and How Does It Differ From My 2009 E-92 M3 Coupe?
Appreciate 0
      04-05-2010, 07:58 PM   #2
FruitCake
Banned
Taiwan
88
Rep
1,680
Posts

Drives: '10 E92 M3
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (19)

US 2010 airbox has the same air filter as the european cars. 2008-2009 US cars had a different air filter.

I suggest you get the european BMC filter instead of the Macht Schnell one because you need an adaptor while the BMC filter does not. Less parts, less headaches in the future. Plus you don't have to pay for the extension adaptor thing.
Appreciate 0
      04-05-2010, 10:48 PM   #3
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
tom @ eas's Avatar
United_States
8105
Rep
18,794
Posts


Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

iTrader: (19)

Garage List
2018 BMW i3s  [0.00]
2010 BMW M3  [6.50]
2015 BMW M4  [5.25]
Quote:
Originally Posted by gishdonald View Post
I Was Searching Web Sites For Air Filters,and On Macht Schnell's Site,it Has A Note That Says:us 2010 Models Will Now Use The European Airbox And Will Require The Eu Filter Adapter To Be Installed.does Anyone Know About This,and How Does It Differ From My 2009 E-92 M3 Coupe?
Due to the mid production change, all US 2010+ models simply need the euro adapter as seen here: http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=2369

2008-2009 do not require the adapter.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22

GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM
Appreciate 0
      04-06-2010, 06:04 AM   #4
mfeltiii
Second Lieutenant
8
Rep
262
Posts

Drives: '10 AW E92 6mt
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S. FLA

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
Due to the mid production change, all US 2010+ models simply need the euro adapter as seen here: http://www.europeanautosource.com/pr...oducts_id=2369

2008-2009 do not require the adapter.
Do the '10's need the filter since the stock euro filter has no carbon layer? Other than the reuseable concept I guess...
Appreciate 0
      04-06-2010, 06:24 AM   #5
PCGuRu2K
Private First Class
United_States
15
Rep
100
Posts

Drives: 2010 JB E92 M3
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: NY

iTrader: (6)

I have the Macht Schnell with the Euro adapter on my US 2010 MY and it works great. Install was easy as 1-2-3
Appreciate 0
      04-06-2010, 06:30 AM   #6
BMW269
Brigadier General
No_Country
431
Rep
3,888
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

Will KNFilters come with a drop-in air filter?
Appreciate 0
      04-06-2010, 08:03 AM   #7
Teutonic M3
Private First Class
31
Rep
109
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: East

iTrader: (0)

So what is the reason the '08-'09 US cars have a different air box?

Please enlighten me.
Appreciate 0
      04-06-2010, 11:51 AM   #8
Moxie
Lieutenant Colonel
Moxie's Avatar
United_States
67
Rep
1,895
Posts

Drives: AW 328d Touring/SG 335d
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

iTrader: (12)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FruitCake View Post
US 2010 airbox has the same air filter as the european cars. 2008-2009 US cars had a different air filter.

I suggest you get the european BMC filter instead of the Macht Schnell one because you need an adaptor while the BMC filter does not. Less parts, less headaches in the future. Plus you don't have to pay for the extension adaptor thing.
Good advice.

Better to have one made for the car than a work around.
Appreciate 0
      04-06-2010, 01:52 PM   #9
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
tom @ eas's Avatar
United_States
8105
Rep
18,794
Posts


Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

iTrader: (19)

Garage List
2018 BMW i3s  [0.00]
2010 BMW M3  [6.50]
2015 BMW M4  [5.25]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi View Post
Will KNFilters come with a drop-in air filter?
K&N doesn't offer a filter for the S65.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
Good advice.

Better to have one made for the car than a work around.
This is irrelevant. The euro adapter has zero affect on filtering abilities, which is what's important.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teutonic M3 View Post
So what is the reason the '08-'09 US cars have a different air box?

Please enlighten me.
It's not a different airbox, only the mounting pin has a different length since a different filter (paper) is used.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22

GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM
Appreciate 0
      04-06-2010, 02:56 PM   #10
Moxie
Lieutenant Colonel
Moxie's Avatar
United_States
67
Rep
1,895
Posts

Drives: AW 328d Touring/SG 335d
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

iTrader: (12)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
This is irrelevant. The euro adapter has zero affect on filtering abilities, which is what's important.

.
Wouldn't understand why anyone wouldn't prefer an air filter specifically made for the car than paying extra for one with an adapter. But I guess since you're trying to sell them ....
Appreciate 0
      04-06-2010, 03:16 PM   #11
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
tom @ eas's Avatar
United_States
8105
Rep
18,794
Posts


Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

iTrader: (19)

Garage List
2018 BMW i3s  [0.00]
2010 BMW M3  [6.50]
2015 BMW M4  [5.25]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moxie View Post
Wouldn't understand why anyone wouldn't prefer an air filter specifically made for the car than paying extra for one with an adapter. But I guess since you're trying to sell them ....
Not really, I just don't 100% agree with this view. By this we shouldn't have the following:

- Wheel Spacers
- Stud Conversions
- Big Brake Kits (since caliper relocation brackets are often used)

Not trying to argue, just making points.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22

GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM
Appreciate 0
      04-10-2010, 06:17 AM   #12
stylinexpat
Major
stylinexpat's Avatar
415
Rep
1,427
Posts

Drives:
Join Date: Aug 2008

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
Not really, I just don't 100% agree with this view. By this we shouldn't have the following:

- Wheel Spacers
- Stud Conversions
- Big Brake Kits (since caliper relocation brackets are often used)

Not trying to argue, just making points.
I find it best to no add wheel spacers and buy wheels with the right offset for the car. Many people also complain of vibrations with the big break kits (Not to say that this is true for all of them but the number of people that get these vibrations is not small either).
Appreciate 0
      04-10-2010, 11:11 AM   #13
JCtx
Major General
258
Rep
5,012
Posts

Drives: No BMW yet
Join Date: May 2008
Location: El Paso TX

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
It's not a different airbox, only the mounting pin has a different length since a different filter (paper) is used.
Can somebody answer the simple question originally asked, which was:

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FILTERS?????

Do '08/'09s have a larger filter, or the other way around? If so, is that same length but wider (where the pin is)? And if filter is smaller on '10s, I'd be pissed; why going backwards? Once more, please enlighten us . Thx.
Appreciate 0
      04-10-2010, 12:52 PM   #14
Moxie
Lieutenant Colonel
Moxie's Avatar
United_States
67
Rep
1,895
Posts

Drives: AW 328d Touring/SG 335d
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: North Carolina

iTrader: (12)

Quote:
Originally Posted by elp_jc View Post
Can somebody answer the simple question originally asked, which was:

WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FILTERS?????

Do '08/'09s have a larger filter, or the other way around? If so, is that same length but wider (where the pin is)? And if filter is smaller on '10s, I'd be pissed; why going backwards? Once more, please enlighten us . Thx.

The filters not smaller in the 2010. There's some comparison shots in this link
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312423
Appreciate 0
      04-10-2010, 03:06 PM   #15
sciaenops
Enlisted Member
United_States
2
Rep
36
Posts

Drives: 2008 e90 M3
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Honolulu

iTrader: (0)

Here's a change that just makes no sense except to universally use one filter... I suppose.
__________________
'08 e90 M3
Akrapovic / Eisenmann Sport / ADVAN
Appreciate 0
      04-10-2010, 03:11 PM   #16
e.n335
Moderator
e.n335's Avatar
Austria
270
Rep
4,481
Posts

Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Switzerland, ZH

iTrader: (0)

My BMC EU filter ( no adapter needed ) is on the way. I will make pictures when it arrives and I'll install it next week.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:11 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST