Envy Charge Pipe -- Impressions

SoCalM3Mang · 12-02-2009, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by major_kusanagi

Keep us posted. I've driven 250 miles with the charge pipe and no issues. just sharper throttle response.

Can you define this a bit better?

ie...Faster acceleration at lower RPM's. Increased sound or torque etc?

Thanks.

mixja · 12-03-2009, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalM3Mang

Can you define this a bit better?

ie...Faster acceleration at lower RPM's. Increased sound or torque etc?

Thanks.

The charge pipe significantly increases the intake volume post filter, which means the pressure differential between pre filter and post filter is increased (remembering there is a restrictive filter in the middle). When you go open the throttle, this should mean greater air speed through the intake system, hence sharper throttle response. Kind of like how a free flowing down pipe makes the turbine wheel spin faster...

That's my theory away

SoCalM3Mang · 12-03-2009, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mixja

The charge pipe significantly increases the intake volume post filter, which means the pressure differential between pre filter and post filter is increased (remembering there is a restrictive filter in the middle). When you go open the throttle, this should mean greater air speed through the intake system, hence sharper throttle response. Kind of like how a free flowing down pipe makes the turbine wheel spin faster...

That's my theory away

You're the man!

Give me an update on your Turner Test Pipes set up! What's going on? Feel free to PM Me.

mixja · 12-03-2009, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalM3Mang

You're the man!

Give me an update on your Turner Test Pipes set up! What's going on? Feel free to PM Me.

Trying to get a strange issue with a rev limiting type sound in 1st gear sorted out - BMW finally think it's DSC related but it's a slow process with them and the car needs to stay stock...

major_kusanagi · 12-03-2009, 08:37 AM

This is subjective, so take it for what it's worth.

I kinda felt something was holding the car back below 3k RPM when I first took delivery. You know, it needed a little more pressure on the gas than I imagined. Of course, over 4K RPM it was impressive with such a broad band of linear power. After the first 1200~1500 miles, the low RPM throttle response got better. With a performance filter, it also got better. With the charge pipe, the car feels much more unbridled. I pushed the car a bit hard this morning and the sharper throttle response was definitely more pronounced at lower RPM.

Yes, I feel that the car accelerates better at lower RPM. The exhaust note is about the same, but the tone is a bit smoother.

Again, this is all subjective.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalM3Mang

Can you define this a bit better?

ie...Faster acceleration at lower RPM's. Increased sound or torque etc?

Thanks.

H Bomb · 12-03-2009, 08:33 PM

catless midpipe is where its at. it was the best mod i have done so far. awesome power increase and sounds amazing. my CAI felt like nothing compared to the midpipe

Quote:

Originally Posted by major_kusanagi

This is subjective, so take it for what it's worth.

I kinda felt something was holding the car back below 3k RPM when I first took delivery. You know, it needed a little more pressure on the gas than I imagined. Of course, over 4K RPM it was impressive with such a broad band of linear power. After the first 1200~1500 miles, the low RPM throttle response got better. With a performance filter, it also got better. With the charge pipe, the car feels much more unbridled. I pushed the car a bit hard this morning and the sharper throttle response was definitely more pronounced at lower RPM.

Yes, I feel that the car accelerates better at lower RPM. The exhaust note is about the same, but the tone is a bit smoother.

Again, this is all subjective.

novablackm3 · 12-03-2009, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalM3Mang

You're the man!

Give me an update on your Turner Test Pipes set up! What's going on? Feel free to PM Me.

i just realized your sig says muscle couple , all this time i thought it said muscle COUPE referring to your M3

LOL

xxe92xx · 12-04-2009, 12:04 AM

dyynnoooo

H Bomb · 12-04-2009, 09:45 AM

+1 def want to see dyno with bone stock car then this piece added

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Originally Posted by xxe92xx

dyynnoooo

JC919 · 12-04-2009, 10:18 AM

Thanks for the review, I've been looking at this system.

doba_s · 12-04-2009, 11:25 AM

How is the Envy Charge pipe is different form the Dinan Intake kit ?

What this question asked before ? Sorry if I missed it

H Bomb · 12-04-2009, 11:58 AM

i don't know the exact specs but it appears to be bigger in diameter then the dinan and more carbon fiber.

i have the Dinan one and like it. it added results described here

Quote:

Originally Posted by doba_s

How is the Envy Charge pipe is different form the Dinan Intake kit ?

What this question asked before ? Sorry if I missed it

MIKEYBMW1 · 12-05-2009, 03:31 PM

I have fitted my charge pipe now and the difference is amazing , so much smoother the car actually pulls alot like my old remapped 335i now , really pleased with it going to get the filter housing and the intakes now

well worth the money .

great bit of kit and looks awesome.

major_kusanagi · 12-06-2009, 12:47 PM

It does make the car pull much better, eh? That is my impression too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIKEYBMW1

I have fitted my charge pipe now and the difference is amazing , so much smoother the car actually pulls alot like my old remapped 335i now , really pleased with it going to get the filter housing and the intakes now

well worth the money .

great bit of kit and looks awesome.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 12-06-2009, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JC919

Thanks for the review, I've been looking at this system.

I am selling mine!

niqui · 12-06-2009, 09:01 PM

guys, does it physically say on the intake MADE IN THE USA??
cause if so, as a canadian, shouldnt i not have to pay any duty on it, under NAFTA...i need to find for border patrol a clear doc that says made in usa, it would help to know if its written on the pieces thanks alot

PYSpeed.com · 12-07-2009, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by niqui

guys, does it physically say on the intake MADE IN THE USA??
cause if so, as a canadian, shouldnt i not have to pay any duty on it, under NAFTA...i need to find for border patrol a clear doc that says made in usa, it would help to know if its written on the pieces thanks alot

Here is Novablackm3's close up of the charge pipe picture. It does say "MADE In USA" on the badge. Hope this help! =)

GT3 Tim · 12-09-2009, 11:58 AM

Good to hear others have also noticed a nice bump! I think this a great mod for our M's

SoCalM3Mang · 12-13-2009, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Eugene-TAIWAN

I am selling mine!

Uh-Oh! Why?

A couple more questions:

***If you have a Macht Schnell Filter already, is there any reason to get the entire system over just the Charge Pipe? Really?

***Where are the Dyno's for this product?

I really thought we'd see more people proving the gains for this product are real.

I'm really interested in grabbing it, but definitely need to see some more real world dyno results.

Thanks to all!

Eugene-TAIWAN · 12-13-2009, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SoCalM3Mang

Uh-Oh! Why?

A couple more questions:

***If you have a Macht Schnell Filter already, is there any reason to get the entire system over just the Charge Pipe? Really?

***Where are the Dyno's for this product?

I really thought we'd see more people proving the gains for this product are real.

I'm really interested in grabbing it, but definitely need to see some more real world dyno results.

Thanks to all!

I am getting a Supercharger kit.

that is why I am selling mine which is sold already but. The charger pipe is the biggest difference. Other may work but the charger pipe is the a huge difference.

SoCalM3Mang · 12-14-2009, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene-TAIWAN

I am getting a Supercharger kit.

that is why I am selling mine which is sold already but. The charger pipe is the biggest difference. Other may work but the charger pipe is the a huge difference.

Thanks for your answers. Good luck on the Supercharger!

So the Charge Pipe is the real difference maker on this system.

Would the RPI scoops still offer any advantage with the Charge Pipe installed or would they become unnecessary at this point?

Thanks.

ChitownM3 · 12-14-2009, 12:26 PM

Still waiting for some dynos.

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