BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > BIMMERPOST Universal Forums > General Automotive (non-BMW) Talk + Photos/Videos
 
EXXEL Distributions
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      04-08-2013, 04:49 PM   #1
Doctor J
Captain
Doctor J's Avatar
Canada
33
Rep
741
Posts

Drives: 2010 E93 M3 DCT
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Vancouver BC

iTrader: (0)

Fisker is dead

too bad.... they made really cool cars

http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...,7184892.story
__________________
2010 BMW M3 vert with DCT & Akra (sold)
2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S
Appreciate 0
      04-08-2013, 04:54 PM   #2
Red Bread
Major General
United_States
4463
Rep
9,160
Posts

Drives: Smog machines
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Austin, TX

iTrader: (0)

Did they? It just seems like they blew a lot of smoke and made a car that looked squished, weighed too much and didn't do anything that the Tesla didn't do better. This isn't the first time Henrik Fisker has driven a "coach builder" into the ground.
Appreciate 0
      04-08-2013, 05:00 PM   #3
py0413
Major
py0413's Avatar
Canada
110
Rep
1,291
Posts

Drives: Slow
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: BC

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doctor J View Post
too bad.... they made really cool cars

http://www.latimes.com/business/auto...,7184892.story
that's quiet unfortunate, the Fisker dealer just opened their door last year in Vancouver, didn't they?
__________________
Must stop eating..............
Appreciate 0
      04-08-2013, 05:15 PM   #4
Teutonic
Colonel
Teutonic's Avatar
No_Country
2709
Rep
2,350
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Canada

iTrader: (0)

Bad Karma?
Appreciate 0
      04-08-2013, 07:35 PM   #5
blutattoo
First Lieutenant
22
Rep
380
Posts

Drives: 2012 135i
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Sacramento

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2012 BMW 135i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracus View Post
I see what you did there
Appreciate 0
      04-08-2013, 08:18 PM   #6
ptack
Brigadier General
ptack's Avatar
United_States
266
Rep
4,469
Posts

Drives: 135i
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 135i  [6.50]
I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla also doesn't survive. Battery technology just isn't there yet.
__________________
135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Apex EC-7s, PPK Stage II
Appreciate 0
      04-08-2013, 11:00 PM   #7
M3_WC
Brigadier General
1040
Rep
3,622
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

Called this about a year ago.
Appreciate 0
      04-08-2013, 11:06 PM   #8
M3_WC
Brigadier General
1040
Rep
3,622
Posts

Drives: M3
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: CA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ptack View Post
I wouldn't be surprised if Tesla also doesn't survive. Battery technology just isn't there yet.
Telsa is a much different situation. They have Toyota helping them.
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 06:47 AM   #9
KingOfJericho
Major General
KingOfJericho's Avatar
United_States
2452
Rep
7,341
Posts

Drives: Yes
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CT

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 135i Coupe  [5.26]
I still see these flying out of the dealer here but I seldom see them on the road. I do see Teslas with increased frequency. I personally know 2 people with the Model S.

The technology really is a tough sell at this point. While it's great that they use zero gas, it's a PITA to remember to charge the thing all the time. There's something to be said for having a car go from empty to full in about two minutes - something that battery technology just can't do yet.
__________________
The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost.

2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi | 2010 S4 Sold | 2010 BMW 135i Retired | 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 07:11 AM   #10
GuidoK
#buildnotbought
GuidoK's Avatar
10626
Rep
4,848
Posts

Drives: Z4 3.0i ESS TS2+
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Tinkering in the garage

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Bread View Post
and didn't do anything that the Tesla didn't do better.
You're comparing the Karma to the Model S?
The Model S wasn't for sale when the Karma came out, so there's no comparison.
The model S still isn't for sale now in europe (at least not where I live).
__________________
Z4 3.0i | ESS TS2+ supercharger | Quaife ATB LSD | Brembo/BMW performance BBK front/rear | Schrick FI cams | Schmiedmann headers+cats | Powerflex/strongflex PU bushings | Vibra-technics engine mounts | H&R anti rollbars | KW V3 coilovers/KW camber plates | Sachs race engineering clutch | tons of custom sh#t
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 08:39 AM   #11
Aventador97
Second Lieutenant
13
Rep
214
Posts

Drives: Mustang Cobra and Mustang V6
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Kentucky

iTrader: (0)

This is a shame, but this will probably make all of the current fiskers worth more.
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 09:04 AM   #12
KingOfJericho
Major General
KingOfJericho's Avatar
United_States
2452
Rep
7,341
Posts

Drives: Yes
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CT

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 135i Coupe  [5.26]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aventador97 View Post
This is a shame, but this will probably make all of the current fiskers worth more.
I hope you were being sarcastic...
__________________
The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost.

2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi | 2010 S4 Sold | 2010 BMW 135i Retired | 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 09:21 AM   #13
catherineanh
Captain
Canada
71
Rep
883
Posts

Drives: 2014 435xi M Sport
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (1)

They kept going on fire.... Too dangerous to buy one and park in your house !
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 10:35 AM   #14
Doctor J
Captain
Doctor J's Avatar
Canada
33
Rep
741
Posts

Drives: 2010 E93 M3 DCT
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Vancouver BC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by py0413 View Post
that's quiet unfortunate, the Fisker dealer just opened their door last year in Vancouver, didn't they?
The BMW store was selling them on the side -- not an actual Fisker dealer

They have probably a dozen cars on the road here -- not that many
__________________
2010 BMW M3 vert with DCT & Akra (sold)
2012 Porsche 911 Turbo S
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 12:23 PM   #15
flyinb501
Captain
72
Rep
627
Posts

Drives: 2009 E90 335i
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Minneapolis, MN

iTrader: (1)

Another company our Government invested in that goes out of business. Nice.
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 01:47 PM   #16
Razzy
Lieutenant
Razzy's Avatar
Canada
242
Rep
509
Posts

Drives: N/A
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Good riddance. The fact that thing thing was alive this long was long enough. Good job to the government for subsidizing this company and a boatload of other sub-par companies.
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 09:01 PM   #17
Efthreeoh
General
United_States
17198
Rep
18,689
Posts

Drives: The E90 + Z4 Coupe & Z3 R'ster
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

And everyone thinks the Volt is over-priced.
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 09:02 PM   #18
Efthreeoh
General
United_States
17198
Rep
18,689
Posts

Drives: The E90 + Z4 Coupe & Z3 R'ster
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfJericho View Post
I still see these flying out of the dealer here but I seldom see them on the road. I do see Teslas with increased frequency. I personally know 2 people with the Model S.

The technology really is a tough sell at this point. While it's great that they use zero gas, it's a PITA to remember to charge the thing all the time. There's something to be said for having a car go from empty to full in about two minutes - something that battery technology just can't do yet.
Let's clarify here... Will never be able to do. Hence the problem.
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 09:07 PM   #19
son_of_siggy
Lieutenant
15
Rep
432
Posts

Drives: CTS-V
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

God forbid the government invest in technologies that could one day change the world and how we operate within it. I think people in general have very little idea of the number of innovations and technologies we use everyday that started via government investment.

There are a lot of great articles out there, from both sides of the political coin, that highlight some of the innovations that have occurred based on government-funded research and development.

http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...nded-research/

It's easy for stuff like this to make news because government is an easy target, but overall these investments have been profitable in the long haul. Good news like that is rarely reported.
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 09:11 PM   #20
son_of_siggy
Lieutenant
15
Rep
432
Posts

Drives: CTS-V
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: United States

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Efthreeoh View Post
Let's clarify here... Will never be able to do. Hence the problem.
Why not? We don't know where the next innovation is. And frankly the "having to remember to charge" is a cop-out. You have to remember to fill your tank with gas. You have to remember to change the oil, spark plugs, air filter, etc in your car. All things you don't have to do with electric.

The only separation at this point is that charging can take 2-3 hours, whereas filling up takes 5-20 minutes depending on travel time, waiting in line, etc. With adjustments to how you operate it's a non issue. And frankly, for the 15 bucks a month I pay in electricity, versus the 200 a month I was paying in gas, I'm happy to make the adjustments. And when gas hits 6 a gallon, or wherever it will be in 3-4 years, I'll be even more okay with adjusting my schedule to charge.

Technology WILL get there. Look at how far things have come in the last 5 years.
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 09:26 PM   #21
KingOfJericho
Major General
KingOfJericho's Avatar
United_States
2452
Rep
7,341
Posts

Drives: Yes
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: CT

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 135i Coupe  [5.26]
It takes you 5-20 min to fill your tank with gas??? I didn't even wait that long during hurricane Sandy and those lines were epic. You fill up when you're on the way somewhere. You don't make special trips to fill up with gas...

Also, if you're so fuel conscious, why do you drive a CTS-V?
__________________
The views and opinions expressed in this post are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of Bimmerpost.

2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee High Altitude Hemi | 2010 S4 Sold | 2010 BMW 135i Retired | 2006 Lotus Exige Sold
Appreciate 0
      04-09-2013, 10:02 PM   #22
buildbright
Major
buildbright's Avatar
155
Rep
1,400
Posts

Drives: F80 M3 MG
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Tampa, FL

iTrader: (1)

The cars never stacked up, they were constantly braking down. I know a group of doctors that bought them and they said their better then Tesla. I said right the salesman tell you that? Yes. Well you'll be sorry, i bet they don't last two years. Long story short they hate me lol.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:34 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST