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The point about the M3 taking turns better than the C63 is ridiculous when you're talking about driving on the street. If you're driving on a track at high speed, then yes M3 will leave it in the dust. But at any safe, or even slightly faster than safe street speeds the C63 is more than capable of taking turns. So many of you talk about the C63 as if a turn on the road is coming up the C63 is going to drive straight off the edge and only the M3 will be able to make it. If you're driving so fast you can't make turns in a C63 on the street you should have your license taken away. But having said all that I'm still happy with my M3 choice. I like the overall feel and style of the M3.
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But thats the thing... It has been challenged. No one is challenging the 'M' name... which im sure you paid an extra 5k for anyways... They are challenging the Car, which is the soul of the name. So far no one has been able to come up with a complete package that competes directly with the M3 and has been able to dominate it. (asuming you classify the GTR and the Z06 as 'racecars') The C36, at the end of the day, is a GREAT car. But i dont think of it as a track car. Its a beast which will throw you back in your seat (which i may remind you, is probaly MORE important to most of the people who look at M3 vs. C36 ) Its not the tool the M3 is, but its still a great car that handles very nicely. Now wait for the Audi RS5 to come out, and we'll have our comparison test with a car that likely is going to match the M3 move for move. |
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11-07-2008, 09:56 AM | #94 |
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So what if the ZR is supercharged? My point was that the C63 has a relatively huge engine, so it's not astonishing that it puts out a lot of horsepower. It's 50% larger than the M3, yet the E92 can readily hold it's own with it in a real world straight line. Why not compare the C63 to a Viper? There's only a couple of liters difference there. What's the H.P difference between the two?
So you guys go on to say that cornering doesn't matter in the real world? If that's the case why not get Silverado trucks, and with a few modifications they will run with the C63. The C63 and M3 are way different cars. Anyone who has driven both knows that. |
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who cares if it is supercharged??? 6.2L is the same thing as 6.2L. the fact that the other engine isnt supercharged is their own fault, im not sure the real 'bragging right' that comes with an unsupercharged engine... |
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Yea the C63 can't handle at all
http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...d=5nIGSrgJbBdH This article should silence some critics, and the car tested has the full performance package just like my car does |
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11-07-2008, 06:17 PM | #98 |
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You guys are pretty funny.
The M3 wins every magazine shootout with the C63. But you say those performance shootouts don't count in the real world. But then you say the engine in the C63 blows away the M3 engine, so that somehow counts. This is an M forum, but even in unbiased reviews the C63 loses to the M3. I don't think you will find an audience here where uninformed people might buy your b.s. Maybe there is a C63 forum where you can find people who believe in things like "handling doesn't count" and "truck size engines are all that matter". Last edited by Advskier; 11-07-2008 at 07:30 PM.. |
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Excuse me. Not every magazine, just the vast majority of comparisons if you do a google search.
As to your questions about State Street driving and such, those are pretty silly. Did you forget about the amazing mountain roads we have? Don't tell me you never drive faster than the speed limit on public roads, because why else would anyone want either of these cars? And yes, I'll probably take it to MMP. I put 1000's of miles on that track since it opened (on race bikes), and would enjoy MMP in a car as well. For that matter, my friend with the C63 has a garage there, and eventually we'll end up on the track together. And since you live in Salt Lake, who would you really rather buy a car from, BMW of Murray or the local Mercedes dealer. A friend of mine just unloaded a lemon he bought from the "other" dealer, and another friend had to sue them a few years ago for all kinds of b.s. they put her through. The friend who unloaded the lemon had issues you wouldn't believe. I would NEVER own a Mercedes in this town for those reasons alone. From my experience, I've never had better service on any car I've ever owned than BMW of Murray. They lent me a new car over Christmas last year for 4 or 5 days while they got a replacement tire for me. And the price of the tire was the same as the cheapest place I could find in town. During my 1200 mile service they lent me a brand new 5 series. If I stop by there for anything they offer to wash the car for me. They typically know their customers by name. Last edited by Advskier; 11-07-2008 at 08:26 PM.. |
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he is correct, forget the c63, how about C&D July 08, since you want specifics.....
M3 vs 911 Turbo vs GT-R. No need for all the details but how about 1st place to the M3 and under verdict "every other car maker should give up on building their own cars and just make m3s" !!!! C63 wasn't allowed in that test lmao.... btw, 75.1 MPH Slalom speed, almost 5 MPH faster than the 911 & GT-R... pretty impressive if you ask me. I can't emphasize enough looks too. sit them side by side and the M takes the cake, I was just outside looking at it in the garage... and.... man she is beautiful. besides, this is the M3 forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The C63 is great if you just want to go fast in a straight line, it's a high tech muscle car. But if you like to, you know, go around corners without either plowing or spinning, then the M3 kills it.
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So you have either plowed or spun while taking the c63 around a corner?
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11-09-2008, 09:04 AM | #109 |
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that part was kind of a joke, just making a point that professional drivers picked the M over 2 supercars!
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Well, I've been in both cars and I can tell you that they are both monsters.
My guess is the difference between the numbers for these cars are so miniscule that it does not matter. What matters is how you feel when you get into the car.....do you look back at the car after you park....do you volunteer to run to the store late at night to get milk or bread.... If you can answer yes to the last two questions, you have a car you are happy with....screw the numbers.....unless you are on the track. I guess then you'll want the M3. Otherwise, just enjoy the cars....M or C. |
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