A4 VS GTI VS Passat CC (out of country situation) ,need inputs

mkiv · 06-15-2011, 06:54 PM

Sup guys.

I am currently in China at the moment for business, i will stay there for more than 4 years( of course vacation back to NA).
Now i am buying a dailydriver for my need.
the city i live has a very cold winter(-30 C) and a somewhat hot summer(30+ C). winter time is more than 4 months a year, normally 5 months. with heavy snow too, but thats not a very big problem since chinese clean up snow amazingly quick.

My budget is around $400,000 chinese.
My choices and price are:

2011 B8 Audi A4L Loaded( long wheelbase version, they only have this kind A4 in china)
FWD(AWD version costs almost 2 times of the price

, wtf).
Good brand and more grown up(for picking up chicks too lol)
2.0T engine with CVT tranny(damn it again).
with all the good stuff like leather, MMI 3G navi and so on.
$390,000 OTD(in chinese,same as below)

2011 B6 VW GTI 5Door(no 3 door in china)
2.0T engine with 6 speed DSG dual-clutch.
FWD
its kinda the fully loaded version in NA, with leather seat, RNS 510 navi etc.
$270,000 OTD

2011 Passat CC Loaded
2.0T engine with DSG
FWD
cool looking car
$350,000 OTD

they are all assembled in China with 80%+ of the original parts.
warranty for audi is 2 years unlimited KMs.
warranty for VW is 2 years 60K KMs.

I was considering Subaru Forester 2.5T as well, but it costs $20K more than the A4L. plus im single, i don't really need the extra big space.

A little bit for myself:
I grew up in Vancouver BC. and I am in my late 20s.
I drive e92 335i and Mercedes ML63 back in vancouver.
the winter sucks in China so I will not buy an BMW, they do not have X-drive 3 series, and the new X3 35i costs $770,000 OTD. just can not afford it. The Q5 2.0T loaded is over $600,000 OTD.

I will daily drive the car and for some business use too.
the price tag in china is just crazy, and doesn't make any sense at all.

Any inputs? or maybe other suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
BTW: GOD! i DO MISS america!!

lcrain · 06-15-2011, 07:23 PM

GTI. I dont know the conversion rate but begin 80k less than the next option sees like an obvious choice to me. DSG is very good, do an APR tune and call it a day. Would be the most fun for sure. Most practical as well in the 5 door version, dont know if you really need that practicality but it is a perk. A4s only advantage to it is the luxury aspect. Choose the gti, you wont regret it compared to the others.

Greenkirby21 · 06-17-2011, 10:10 PM

Gti probably the best fun and best bang for your buck

The cc is sexy but has same engine as gti but better interior

The a4 is an overpriced gli xD

HermanL · 06-17-2011, 11:11 PM

what city do you live in? i am from China too~
from the 3 cars you mentioned, GTI get my vote. dsg is awesome and with a tune, you will be faster than most of cars on the road in China. only downside is you are not going to pick up many girls with a GTI, i know they all about brands and luxury. For 400,000 RMB, i just can't justify the price for an A4 with CVT and FWD. I owned a B7 A4 before and trust me CVT sucks. have you even looked into evo X/Subaru sti ? i think they are around 450,000 RMB, definitely fun to drive and with AWD you don't have to worry too much about winter.(sounds like you will have quite a bit of snow). hope this will help

Cerezo · 06-18-2011, 12:38 AM

In China? That's a no-brainer. The A4, especially if you are wanting to do business with it and pick up chics. Not to mention that all that power is useless if you live in a city. There is absolutely no place for you to toss a car around. Ask any Chinese guy they'll tell you the same.

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mkiv 2JZ 63 Rep 819 Posts Drives: 16 G500 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: 温哥华Vancouver iTrader: (6)	A4 VS GTI VS Passat CC (out of country situation) ,need inputs Sup guys. I am currently in China at the moment for business, i will stay there for more than 4 years( of course vacation back to NA). Now i am buying a dailydriver for my need. the city i live has a very cold winter(-30 C) and a somewhat hot summer(30+ C). winter time is more than 4 months a year, normally 5 months. with heavy snow too, but thats not a very big problem since chinese clean up snow amazingly quick. My budget is around $400,000 chinese. My choices and price are: 2011 B8 Audi A4L Loaded( long wheelbase version, they only have this kind A4 in china) FWD(AWD version costs almost 2 times of the price, wtf). Good brand and more grown up(for picking up chicks too lol) 2.0T engine with CVT tranny(damn it again). with all the good stuff like leather, MMI 3G navi and so on. $390,000 OTD(in chinese,same as below) 2011 B6 VW GTI 5Door(no 3 door in china) 2.0T engine with 6 speed DSG dual-clutch. FWD its kinda the fully loaded version in NA, with leather seat, RNS 510 navi etc. $270,000 OTD 2011 Passat CC Loaded 2.0T engine with DSG FWD cool looking car $350,000 OTD they are all assembled in China with 80%+ of the original parts. warranty for audi is 2 years unlimited KMs. warranty for VW is 2 years 60K KMs. I was considering Subaru Forester 2.5T as well, but it costs $20K more than the A4L. plus im single, i don't really need the extra big space. A little bit for myself: I grew up in Vancouver BC. and I am in my late 20s. I drive e92 335i and Mercedes ML63 back in vancouver. the winter sucks in China so I will not buy an BMW, they do not have X-drive 3 series, and the new X3 35i costs $770,000 OTD. just can not afford it. The Q5 2.0T loaded is over $600,000 OTD. I will daily drive the car and for some business use too. the price tag in china is just crazy, and doesn't make any sense at all. Any inputs? or maybe other suggestions? Thanks in advance! BTW: GOD! i DO MISS america!! __________________ E92 335i Fully Loaded \| Procede Rev2 \| ETS FMIC \| AR Catless DP \| AFE DCI \| AA BOV \| KW V2 \| iForged Essen \| VRS CF Trunk \| M-Tech Sideskirts \| M-Tech Rear \| Ericsson Front GONE!
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lcrain Captain 56 Rep 865 Posts Drives: e36 m3, TT-RS Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (1)	GTI. I dont know the conversion rate but begin 80k less than the next option sees like an obvious choice to me. DSG is very good, do an APR tune and call it a day. Would be the most fun for sure. Most practical as well in the 5 door version, dont know if you really need that practicality but it is a perk. A4s only advantage to it is the luxury aspect. Choose the gti, you wont regret it compared to the others.
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Greenkirby21 Vrooom :) 314 Rep 2,602 Posts Drives: C7 Stringray Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dream Land iTrader: (1)	Gti probably the best fun and best bang for your buck The cc is sexy but has same engine as gti but better interior The a4 is an overpriced gli xD __________________ 2014 C7 Corvette Stringray - Laguna Blue - NPP Exhaust - Competition Seats
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HermanL First Lieutenant 60 Rep 372 Posts Drives: e92 335i --> F80 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ithaca, NY iTrader: (3)	what city do you live in? i am from China too~ from the 3 cars you mentioned, GTI get my vote. dsg is awesome and with a tune, you will be faster than most of cars on the road in China. only downside is you are not going to pick up many girls with a GTI, i know they all about brands and luxury. For 400,000 RMB, i just can't justify the price for an A4 with CVT and FWD. I owned a B7 A4 before and trust me CVT sucks. have you even looked into evo X/Subaru sti ? i think they are around 450,000 RMB, definitely fun to drive and with AWD you don't have to worry too much about winter.(sounds like you will have quite a bit of snow). hope this will help
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Cerezo Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 254 Posts Drives: 08 TL Type-S Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	In China? That's a no-brainer. The A4, especially if you are wanting to do business with it and pick up chics. Not to mention that all that power is useless if you live in a city. There is absolutely no place for you to toss a car around. Ask any Chinese guy they'll tell you the same.
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