Main Bearing Failure... Anyone had fewer miles of ownership than me?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by YoshiBolo

So they changed the injector and said it’s the main rod that is probably bent. Engine still going limp after starting. Going to get it towed to another shop for a 2nd opinion.

This is a total bummer.

That's really #s@cks ! Keep us posted about your situation..
Is your car stock ?

[YoshiBolo]

Completely stock. I bought it end of September with about 67k miles on it. Was the 4th owner. First was a lease, second had it for about 5yrs and the last guy only had it for 1.5 yrs but took pristine condition of it and was a very nicHad records and used it as a daily driver with no engine problems.

[Candide13]

Tough story..

What I don't get is why the selling dealer initially offered to take it back, or repair?

If OP bought it "as is" under GA state law, what is the incentive for the dealer to do this, especially as OP is an out of state customer who is not going to come back for more business?

[pbonsalb]

I guess one should not buy a used car in GA. And probably a bunch of other states.

[nrubenstein]

Originally Posted by Candide13

Tough story..

What I don't get is why the selling dealer initially offered to take it back, or repair?

If OP bought it "as is" under GA state law, what is the incentive for the dealer to do this, especially as OP is an out of state customer who is not going to come back for more business?

They thought it would be an easy or cheap fix, and it's worth something to duck a bad yelp review/etc.

As I said early, if they hadn't promised to fix it, I'd be way less annoyed about this. I'd also have a "new" engine in it by now.

[spazzyfry123]

Originally Posted by Candide13

Tough story..

What I don't get is why the selling dealer initially offered to take it back, or repair?

If OP bought it "as is" under GA state law, what is the incentive for the dealer to do this, especially as OP is an out of state customer who is not going to come back for more business?

It's also tough that in today's world there needs to be an incentive to do what's right.

[MMMM3]

Originally Posted by nrubenstein

I have enough of their promises in writing, and extensive notes on the verbal components. Georgia state law is generally unsupportive (unsurprisingly), except that once they *make* a promise, they *are* required to hold up that end of the deal.

So what do you have in writing?

[MMMM3]

Most of the folks here assume that the dealer knew it was defective- CONJECTURE
You did the PPI and the drive- did you know it was defective? Obviously not- so why assume the dealer knew?
This repair costs how much? What, three times their profit on the car?

[BOOF-M3]

The dealer had insurance for just this issue. If you buy a candy bar from a 7/11 go to your car, unwrap it and their is a bug inside the candy 7/11 will take it back. Why? Because it's the right thing to do. They could say "well, you bought it, you eat it". There was no way of either party knowing what was behind the wrapper. Same as this car, no one knew, but here we are. Dealer should call business insurance company and then cancel out the sale. Then we can end this thread we a happy ending. If I were the dealer that is what I would have done.

[LVI]

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

The dealer had insurance for just this issue. If you buy a candy bar from a 7/11 go to your car, unwrap it and their is a bug inside the candy 7/11 will take it back. Why? Because it's the right thing to do. They could say "well, you bought it, you eat it". There was no way of either party knowing what was behind the wrapper. Same as this car, no one knew, but here we are. Dealer should call business insurance company and then cancel out the sale. Then we can end this thread we a happy ending. If I were the dealer that is what I would have done.

This is not how insurance works.

[BOOF-M3]

Originally Posted by lawrence1

This is not how insurance works.

I know, I just want the good guys to win. It sucks for both parties. I don't like to see my real life friends or online friends lose out so big.

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by lawrence1

This is not how insurance works.

The dealer may have insurance for this. It would not surprise me if its lenders require insurance that covers a bad car purchase.

[nrubenstein]

Originally Posted by MMMM3

So what do you have in writing?

Enough. Also not relevant to my problem with BMWNA.

[nrubenstein]

Originally Posted by MMMM3

Most of the folks here assume that the dealer knew it was defective- CONJECTURE
You did the PPI and the drive- did you know it was defective? Obviously not- so why assume the dealer knew?
This repair costs how much? What, three times their profit on the car?

I’m not sure why anyone thinks that the dealer knew it was getting ready to blow. These engines don’t provide warning before the bearings spin.

My issue is that they promised to repair or take back the car. The promise was overridden by a BMW dealer making a bullshit claim that I over-revved the engine.

[LVI]

What insurance would that be? I work in insurance and don't know of such a product. Could this be claimed under a business GL policy? Sure. Would there be coverage? Doubtful.

This was an as is sale to a customer who inspected and test drove the vehicle prior to buying it. The dealer also has a diagnostic of a misshift to show that the customer caused the engine to over rev and blow. Is it a half assed diagnostic? Yes, but it is likely defendable in court. They will deny coverage and OP will need to take the dealership to court to get anything. And how is the dealership liable for this engine blowing? They did not provide a warranty and he buyer signed that it was an as is sale after inspecting and test driving the car. For all we know, they had no idea this engine had an issue.

Insurance companies dont just go around cutting checks without claims being fully investigated and evaluated for merit.

[LVI]

Originally Posted by nrubenstein

Enough. Also not relevant to my problem with BMWNA.

What is enough? What did they communicate to you in writing?

[NashvegasR]

Legally, buyer here has what I believe to be legitimate grounds for the selling dealer potentially misrepresenting their product. They sold a working vehicle. As is (which is how most every non warranty car is sold these days). It died on the way home. That is close enough to warrant a closer look. How was the vehicle marketed, what was in the sales docs, etc.

Originally Posted by spazzyfry123

It certainly is. The issue is (and I see Atlanta in your location, so I'm sure you're aware) that it truly is an "as-is" state unfortunately. As soon as you sign the paperwork and make that car yours...sorry bro.

I once bought a cheap "as-is" Maxima from one of the buy-here-pay-here type dealerships for cash to have something for an extra long commute to keep miles off the other car. Within about 100 miles of owning the car the electrical to the fuel system fried itself and the transmission completely shit the bed. Needless to say I was furious and chased them for weeks. Thankfully we came to agreement where they supplied all parts and I covered labor for a new transmission and all. But I will say that scenario would not be the norm as sad as it is. I wish we had some laws like Cali, but there aren't many that I would want!

[nrubenstein]

Originally Posted by NashvegasR

Legally, buyer here has what I believe to be legitimate grounds for the selling dealer potentially misrepresenting their product. They sold a working vehicle. As is (which is how most every non warranty car is sold these days). It died on the way home. That is close enough to warrant a closer look. How was the vehicle marketed, what was in the sales docs, etc.

I don’t need any grounds for arguing that they misrepresented the vehicle. The car broke, they promised to fix it and ship it up to me, or take it back. The problem is the BMW dealer has given them grounds to renege on their promise.

[rcracin]

A lot of nonsense posts by other users to read through.

What’s the latest on the car? Are you having a good working car delivered to you in the near future?

[tdott]

Originally Posted by nrubenstein

As I said early, if they hadn't promised to fix it, I'd be way less annoyed about this. I'd also have a "new" engine in it by now.

They probably said they would handle it out of goodwill thinking it would be something small, then they found out how much it would cost....
I don't really blame them, especially if you bought the car as is with no warranty.

Originally Posted by spazzyfry123

It's also tough that in today's world there needs to be an incentive to do what's right.

Not when it would cost ~$20k+. Especially not when the car was sold as is, I'm sure they offered an aftermarket warranty they tried to up-sell on.

[doogee]

Originally Posted by tdott

They probably said they would handle it out of goodwill thinking it would be something small, then they found out how much it would cost....
I don't really blame them, especially if you bought the car as is with no warranty.



Not when it would cost ~$20k+. Especially not when the car was sold as is, I'm sure they offered an aftermarket warranty they tried to up-sell on.

Yeah I don't see how the dealership is responsible for any of this.

It's well known that most of these engines blow up. Whether yours blew up 2 minutes outside the parking lot, or a week to a year later. It was going to happen.

This isn't the dealerships problem. There was no warranty

[tdott]

I would also like to add that I don't see anything that would confirm that it was a main bearing issue and not a rod bearing. A tear down needs to take place before you can confirm.