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      09-18-2017, 12:52 AM   #1
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Is this a Real Limited Edition Frozen M3

https://www.carmax.com/car/14997674

As the post title says. is this a real Frozen m3?
Carmax said it was a limited edition 2013
But according to the registry there weren't any frozen gray 6 speeds ever made?
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      09-18-2017, 12:57 AM   #2
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Hard to say, the car have the frozen interior trim where the carbon leather have color matching stitching. But on the outside it doesn't look right as the frozen edition have black exhaust tips, side grilles, front grilles and hood vents are all black. Also the wheels are supposed to be black too.

Edit: on a second look, the seats don't appear to be frozen edition. If I remember correctly the frozen gray have a gray stripe down the middle of the seat.

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      09-18-2017, 01:11 AM   #3
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Yea... my guess is this is actually a custom paint with a ZCP package. I put a hold on it and will take a look in person tomorrow.

Edit: With the low miles and the color I like with the rims I like I figure it's still a great deal especially if I can get the carmax warranty.
Anything I should look out for as big red flags on this one?
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      09-18-2017, 01:17 AM   #4
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Real frozen
Vin comes back as SONDERLACKIERUNG 490

Which is frozen black! Rare care in general but having a manual makes it even more rare!
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      09-18-2017, 01:19 AM   #5
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according to a free online vin decoder, its just an individual frozen grey paint. doesn't look like one of the 1 of 30 cars or whatever.
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      09-18-2017, 01:20 AM   #6
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ah.. thanks for the sleuthing

Edit: found a the very cool BMW vin decoder:
Vehicle Identification Number WBSKG9C5XDJ594377
Type KG93
Model M3 - USA
Development Code E92 (M3)
Chassis COUPE
Steering LL
Doors 2
Engine S65
Displacement 4.00
Power 309
Drivetrain HECK
Transmission MECH
Color Sonderlackierung - 490
Upholstery Sonderpolsterung - Z1XX
Production Plant REGENSBURG
Production Date 2013-02-27


Exterieur
Interieur
360°


Standard Equipment
431 Interior Rr Vw Mirror W Aut Anti-d Innenspiegel,automatisch Abblendend
5DS Luggage-compartment Emerg. Release Kofferraumnotentriegelung
522 Xenon Light Xenon-licht
524 Adaptive Headlights Adaptives Kurvenlicht
534 Automatic Air Conditioning Klimaautomatik
540 Cruise Control Geschwindigkeitsregelung
645 Radio Control Us Radio-steuerung Us
775 Individual Roof-lining Anthracite Individual Dachhimmel Anthrazit
845 Acoustic Belt Warning Akustische Gurtwarnung
853 Language Version English Sprachversion Englisch
876 Radio Frequency 315 Mhz Funkfrequenz 315 Mhz


Options
1CA Selection Cop Relevant Vehicles Selektion Cop Relevanter Fahrzeuge
1CC Automatic Start/stop Function Auto Start Stop Funktion
2MD M Drive M Drive
2VB Tyre Pressure Indicator Reifendruckanzeige
223 Dynamic Damper Control Dynamische Daempfer Control
302 Alarm System Alarmanlage
313 Exterior Mirror Package Aussenspiegelpaket
319 Integrated Universal Remote Control Integrierte Universal-fernbedienung
322 Comfort Access System Komfortzugang
326 Rear Spoiler, Deletion Heckspoiler Entfall
4AE Armrest Front Retractable Armauflage Vorne Verschiebbar
4MY Int.tr.fin. Black Ltr. Carbon Structure Int.leist. Leder Carbonstr. Schwarz
4NA Interior Mirror With Dig. Compass Innenspiegel Mit Digitalem Kompass
415 Sunblind For Rear Window Sonnenschutzrollo Fuer Heckscheibe
423 Floor Mats, Velour Fussmatten In Velours
441 Smokers Package Raucherpaket
459 Seat Adjustm., Electr. W. Memory Sitzverstellung, Elektr.mit Memory
490 Seat Back Width Adjustment Lehnenbreitenverstellung
494 Seat Heating F Driver/front Passenger Sitzheizung Fuer Fahrer/beifahrer
507 Park Distance Control (pdc), Rear Park Distance Control (pdc), Hinten
521 Rain Sensor Regensensor
563 Lights Package Lichtpaket
6AA Bmw Teleservices Bmw Teleservices
6AB Control Teleservices Steuerung Teleservices
6FL Usb-/audio Interface Usb-audio-schnittstelle
6NF Ext.con.of The Music Play.i.mobilph Music-schnittstelle Fuer Smartphone
6NR Apps Apps
6UH Traffic Information Traffic Information
6VC Control Combox Steuerung Combox
609 Navigation System Professional Navigationssystem Professional
615 Extended Bmw Online Information Erweiterte Bmw Online Information
616 Bmw Online Bmw Online
620 Voice Input System Spracheingabesystem
639 Complete Prep. Cellular Phone Usa/cdn Komplettvorb. Handy Usa/cdn
655 Satellite Radio Satellitentuner
697 Area-code 1 Area-code 1
7MA Competition Package Competition Paket
752 Individual Audio System Individual Audiosystem
760 Individual High-gloss Satin Chrome Individual Hochglanz Shadow Line
8SC Country Spec. Release Of Teleservice Laenderspez. Teleservicefreisch.
8SP Cop Control Cop Steuerung
8TN Daytime Driving Lights Selectable B Tagfahrlicht Ueber Lichtmenue Einst
9AB Ext. Skin Prot., Delet. Spec. Chec Aussenhautschutz Entfall
925 Shipping Protection Package Versandschutzpaket
Individual
Steuerung Individual
Hinweisschild BMW Individual

0490 Sonderlackierung
Sonderlackierung "frozen grey metallic", wie Schl. Nr. U83.
(Basislack: Spacegrau met. A52 / matter 2K-Klarlack FF95-0550
+ Haerter SC29-0160, MV100:33 Gew., BASF).
Hinweisschild "Matte Lackierung".

Z1XX Sonderpolsterung
************************************************** ******************
** M3 Serienleder mit Kontraststeppung **
** Bitte Anhang der Freigabe beachten!!! **
************************************************** ******************
Erweiterte Lederausstattung "Novillo" schwarz, analog Schl.Nr. NDSW.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Folgende Umfaenge mit Kontraststeppung der Doppelkappnaehte:
* Sitze vorne (und hinten beim E93)
* Kopfstuetzen vorne und hinten
* Einsaetze der Tuerverkleidungen / Seitenverkleidungen
(Blenden Mitte)
* Armauflagen der Tuer-/ Seitenverkleidungen (Softpads)
* Tuerzuziehgriffe
* Mittelkonsole
* Handbremshebelbalg
Steppzwirn tobagoblau (Nr. 2 256 790), Farb-Nr. 3644 B.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Ausfuehrung gemaess Freigabe.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Nahtbild der Sitze vorne und hinten wie M-Sitz.
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Restliche Innenausstattung wie bei erw. Leder Novillo schwarz,
Schl.Nr. NDSW.

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      09-18-2017, 01:27 AM   #7
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according to a free online vin decoder, its just an individual frozen grey paint. doesn't look like one of the 1 of 30 cars or whatever.
That could be it, just an individual paint not the frozen edition. Either way, frozen edition or not, it is the same as the ZCP. Only thing with the frozen is you get color matching stitching and extended leather, not a deal breaker.
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      09-18-2017, 01:30 AM   #8
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Yea.. with the low miles and 6 speed. I think it's a true unicorn.. unless there's some serious issues hopefully this one will be mine!
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      09-18-2017, 12:41 PM   #9
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Seems like an extraordinary deal to me. Hopefully it isn't too good to be true. Best of luck!
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      09-18-2017, 12:57 PM   #10
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An extra $10,000 in paint, interior and M Performance spoiler MSRP!
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      09-18-2017, 01:09 PM   #11
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Beautiful car. Side question, how do I get my maps to look that way?
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Looks like a beautiful example, go get it!
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      09-18-2017, 01:12 PM   #13
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How much? Did I miss it, I don't see a price...! It looks nice and IT CAN'T BE RESERVED?????
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Real frozen
Vin comes back as SONDERLACKIERUNG 490

Which is frozen black! Rare care in general but having a manual makes it even more rare!
SONDERLACKIERUNG 490 is any special color, NOT just Frozen Black!
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Yea.. with the low miles and 6 speed. I think it's a true unicorn.. unless there's some serious issues hopefully this one will be mine!
Wow look at you gonna own this beauty with zero "appreciates". You buy it and you will have ten in no time.
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      09-18-2017, 07:51 PM   #16
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it didn't come with the car, but that "m power" ebrake handle is pretty rare. its an oem piece that isn't made anymore.
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      09-18-2017, 08:02 PM   #17
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A red interior/speedcloth would've made this car perfect... The black is nice too. :-)
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      09-18-2017, 10:46 PM   #18
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That's a beautiful car! Just a FYI on price for comparison. I have a 2013 frozen silver E92 M3 with 37K miles. Individual order with speedcloth seats, ZCP, DCT, dealer installed MPE. It's wrapped and in pretty much pristine condition. I asked my dealer for an appraisal as I was debating buying an extended warranty versus moving onto a new car. The stealership offered me 36K for the car. I kept my car and bought an extended warranty. Not sure if 45K is priced right for that car although I have an interest in high value for these cars.
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That's a beautiful car! Just a FYI on price for comparison. I have a 2013 frozen silver E92 M3 with 37K miles. Individual order with speedcloth seats, ZCP, DCT, dealer installed MPE. It's wrapped and in pretty much pristine condition. I asked my dealer for an appraisal as I was debating buying an extended warranty versus moving onto a new car. The stealership offered me 36K for the car. I kept my car and bought an extended warranty. Not sure if 45K is priced right for that car although I have an interest in high value for these cars.
Dealer offered you 36K because they want to sell it for +46k. After overhead they want to be make 10k profit.
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      09-18-2017, 11:57 PM   #20
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I ended up passing on the car. I think it'll definitely make a buyer happy.
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That's a beautiful car! Just a FYI on price for comparison. I have a 2013 frozen silver E92 M3 with 37K miles. Individual order with speedcloth seats, ZCP, DCT, dealer installed MPE. It's wrapped and in pretty much pristine condition. I asked my dealer for an appraisal as I was debating buying an extended warranty versus moving onto a new car. The stealership offered me 36K for the car. I kept my car and bought an extended warranty. Not sure if 45K is priced right for that car although I have an interest in high value for these cars.
Dealer offered you 36K because they want to sell it for +46k. After overhead they want to be make 10k profit.
Yeah. 10K mark-up is solid. Wonder if that's what they usually get for used sports cars.
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Beautiful car. Side question, how do I get my maps to look that way?
What do you mean about the maps? Split screen is on and so is perspective view.
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