Very Impressed with Pagid Yellow Racing Pads

BH_Fanaticos77 · 04-04-2012, 01:25 PM

how do you bed these pads? someone said periodically, do you just do the bedding process again even if you had them on for a while?
My rotors are bit worn from the last pads I had and don't want to change them yet but I want to use these Pagid sets. Can I run a track day without smoothing the rotors? or do you absolutely think I have to do it everytime I change the pads? I have stock pads for street use. Thanks all for comments.

sawzall · 04-04-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BH_Fanaticos77

how do you bed these pads? someone said periodically, do you just do the bedding process again even if you had them on for a while?
My rotors are bit worn from the last pads I had and don't want to change them yet but I want to use these Pagid sets. Can I run a track day without smoothing the rotors? or do you absolutely think I have to do it everytime I change the pads? I have stock pads for street use. Thanks all for comments.

Here are Pagid's official instructions for bedding in the pads: http://www.braketechnology.com/brakepadbedding.html

1MOREMOD · 04-04-2012, 09:38 PM

i understand the bedding procedure but unsure how they would require it to be repeated once the pads and the rotor have met and made friends. they are mated to each other properly. how is that required again?

Richard@M-World · 04-05-2012, 01:06 AM

I think the answer is that it depends. I've used Pagid on rotors with StopTech Street Performance pads, and it worked fine. Others have used Pagid on rotors with OE pads, and I don't think there was any issues. Other compounds, it's hard to say.

1MOREMOD · 04-05-2012, 10:31 AM

is the rebedding assuming that you are switching back and forth between pads? if so that makes sense i was thinking you were rebedding pads that where being used continuously.

Sleeper519 · 04-05-2012, 09:15 PM

I think that the transfer of pad material only occurs with higher temperatures. If you are using for daily driving (frequent cold brake rotors) then the pad material will eventually wear off of the rotor face. When I ran Cool Carbons as my DD and track pad (not so great), I would have to re-bed every month or so when they would start squealing again. I know that my Pagids will scrub my rotors clean within a couple of days after track events so I can put back the street pads and re-bed them back in.

klammer · 04-05-2012, 10:31 PM

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I think that the transfer of pad material only occurs with higher temperatures. If you are using for daily driving (frequent cold brake rotors) then the pad material will eventually wear off of the rotor face. When I ran Cool Carbons as my DD and track pad (not so great), I would have to re-bed every month or so when they would start squealing again. I know that my Pagids will scrub my rotors clean within a couple of days after track events so I can put back the street pads and re-bed them back in.

Agreed. Will have to keep an eye on these and just hope ive scheduled enough events to not have to rebed, but as a DD think I might be fighting a losing battle.

Justin(OKC) · 04-07-2012, 07:39 PM

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Richard, how do they compare to the StopTech pads you seem to like? I believe the ST pads are more of a street pad, but can be used on the track.

Richard, did you answer this? I'm curious about this as well.

Richard@M-World · 04-08-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by aus

Richard, how do they compare to the StopTech pads you seem to like? I believe the ST pads are more of a street pad, but can be used on the track.

Richard, did you answer this? I'm curious about this as well.

I would say that the biggest difference is consistency. After you push HARD on the StopTech pads for a good number of laps, you will feel that the pedal travels slightly more and the bite is slightly less especially at the end of a heavy braking event. Pagid on the other hand, is very predictable throughout, say, a 20 min track session. That's why I started using it for time trial -- you can wait until the last minute and know that your car will stop

BTW the GB for Pagid is closing today.

aus · 04-08-2012, 11:14 AM

Thanks Richard. Are you talking about the RS29 or RS19 above?
Do you just keep them in between track events, or do you change them out?

Thanks.

Richard@M-World · 04-08-2012, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aus

Thanks Richard. Are you talking about the RS29 or RS19 above?
Do you just keep them in between track events, or do you change them out?

Thanks.

RS29. I was told RS19 is not available for 1903 (StopTech ST-60).

Mine is a track car so I keep them in there. However changing pads on the StopTech is very easy and can be done within 5-10 min each corner. And no issues with compatibility between Street Performance and Pagid pads.

tightie · 04-08-2012, 10:33 PM

how much do these cost?

Richard@M-World · 04-08-2012, 10:47 PM

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how much do these cost?

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=669094
http://www.m-world.us/products_brakes.html#pads

Schaffer · 04-21-2012, 05:31 AM

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They are very effective for the stock calipers too. I've used them the past two years and have been lucky enough to find minimally used pads from other former M3post members. They are quite pricey but the durability and performance is quite good. Perf Friction has a new 08 compound that they claim is very durable (their most durable pad material) but is not available for stock calipers yet.

PFC 08 is available front/rear for stock calipers here in Europe. More bite compared to RS29 :-)

dawgdog · 04-21-2012, 08:42 AM

I have 3 events on my Pagid Yellows now and I have to say that I love these pads. Compared to my previous Mintex F3Rs the wear is minimal, and the performance is excellent. No longer loud on the street either.

STALKER · 04-25-2012, 11:35 AM

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I have 3 events on my Pagid Yellows now and I have to say that I love these pads. Compared to my previous Mintex F3Rs the wear is minimal, and the performance is excellent. No longer loud on the street either.

Are they wearing equally? I think you were having issues before with uneven pad wear no??

dawgdog · 04-25-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by STALKER

Are they wearing equally? I think you were having issues before with uneven pad wear no??

Seems to be but hard to tell for sure. At any rate I love how they perform and have a spare set of fronts on hand. How is your suspension? My brother is getting JRZs for his Cayman S. I am happy with my AST 4200s I picked up from Harold.

STALKER · 04-25-2012, 11:56 AM

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Seems to be but hard to tell for sure. At any rate I love how they perform and have a spare set of fronts on hand. How is your suspension? My brother is getting JRZs for his Cayman S. I am happy with my AST 4200s I picked up from Harold.

Suspension so far is great, but I have not had a dry track date yet to really see how they perform. Hopefully soon though.

Richard@M-World · 04-26-2012, 10:21 PM

Just a quick feedback. Recently I drove a E46 with Pagid Yellows and it was virtually quiet on the streets... therefore I suspect that if you have a clean rotor w/o any other pad materials, the pads should work quietly.

kaiv · 04-26-2012, 10:29 PM

So which are we talking about again. RS29 or 19?
And what's the difference?

Interested in third party reviews as well.

Richard@M-World · 04-27-2012, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by kaiv

So which are we talking about again. RS29 or 19?
And what's the difference?

Interested in third party reviews as well.

The E46 had RS29 front, RS19 rear.

RS29 and RS19 are very similar. The latter has slightly less initial bite and coefficient of friction. According to Pagid, probably only pro drivers would be able to fully appreciate the difference. For M3 OEM shape only RS19 is available. ST-60 only RS29. ST-40 both are available.

Quite a few guys will be getting their group buy order soon.

1MOREMOD · 04-27-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Richard@M-World

The E46 had RS29 front, RS19 rear.

RS29 and RS19 are very similar. The latter has slightly less initial bite and coefficient of friction. According to Pagid, probably only pro drivers would be able to fully appreciate the difference. For M3 OEM shape only RS19 is available. ST-60 only RS29. ST-40 both are available.

Quite a few guys will be getting their group buy order soon.

can i get a set of the rs-19 fronts for oem rotors in the group buy still? going through the ds 2500s too fast.

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BH_Fanaticos77 Private 6 Rep 50 Posts Drives: 2008 BMW M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	how do you bed these pads? someone said periodically, do you just do the bedding process again even if you had them on for a while? My rotors are bit worn from the last pads I had and don't want to change them yet but I want to use these Pagid sets. Can I run a track day without smoothing the rotors? or do you absolutely think I have to do it everytime I change the pads? I have stock pads for street use. Thanks all for comments. __________________ 2008 M3 coupe - DCT & EDC, AA
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1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	i understand the bedding procedure but unsure how they would require it to be repeated once the pads and the rotor have met and made friends. they are mated to each other properly. how is that required again? __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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04-05-2012, 01:06 AM	#48
Richard@M-World 78 Rep 684 Posts Drives: NASA TTA #92 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: TX/IL iTrader: (0)	I think the answer is that it depends. I've used Pagid on rotors with StopTech Street Performance pads, and it worked fine. Others have used Pagid on rotors with OE pads, and I don't think there was any issues. Other compounds, it's hard to say. __________________ Authorized AiM Dealer - Solo/Solo DL \| SmartyCam HD \| www.m-world.us
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1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	is the rebedding assuming that you are switching back and forth between pads? if so that makes sense i was thinking you were rebedding pads that where being used continuously. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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04-05-2012, 09:15 PM	#50
Sleeper519 Captain 68 Rep 869 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	I think that the transfer of pad material only occurs with higher temperatures. If you are using for daily driving (frequent cold brake rotors) then the pad material will eventually wear off of the rotor face. When I ran Cool Carbons as my DD and track pad (not so great), I would have to re-bed every month or so when they would start squealing again. I know that my Pagids will scrub my rotors clean within a couple of days after track events so I can put back the street pads and re-bed them back in. __________________ 2008 M3 Coupe / DCT // StopTech BBK 380/355 / Pagid RS29 / Motul / Apex Arc-8 / BFG R1S / Ground Control / MS filter / Performance spoiler / BPM tune // Road Atlanta 1:39.70 / VIR Full 2:10.87 / Barber 1:42.20
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04-08-2012, 11:14 AM	#54
aus Major General 890 Rep 9,031 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Thanks Richard. Are you talking about the RS29 or RS19 above? Do you just keep them in between track events, or do you change them out? Thanks. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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04-21-2012, 08:42 AM	#59
dawgdog Colonel 148 Rep 2,278 Posts Drives: 2015 M3, 2016 GT3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. iTrader: (0)	I have 3 events on my Pagid Yellows now and I have to say that I love these pads. Compared to my previous Mintex F3Rs the wear is minimal, and the performance is excellent. No longer loud on the street either. __________________ 2015 f80 M3, 2016 GT3
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Richard@M-World 78 Rep 684 Posts Drives: NASA TTA #92 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: TX/IL iTrader: (0)	Just a quick feedback. Recently I drove a E46 with Pagid Yellows and it was virtually quiet on the streets... therefore I suspect that if you have a clean rotor w/o any other pad materials, the pads should work quietly. __________________ Authorized AiM Dealer - Solo/Solo DL \| SmartyCam HD \| www.m-world.us
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kaiv IG: limited.slip 331 Rep 1,918 Posts Drives: E46 M3 in a 325i Touring body! Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (31)	So which are we talking about again. RS29 or 19? And what's the difference? Interested in third party reviews as well. Last edited by kaiv; 04-26-2012 at 10:38 PM..
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