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i think this was more a matter of mistakes and miscommunication and not using the right choice of words rather than shady business practices. like others have stated, at the end of the day no harm was done to either party. but the vendor did man up and try to make things right.
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Having worked with Sasan and Long I know for a fact that both are good guys and hardcore BMW enthusiast so it's sad to see threads like this. I personally have had some KW Clubport pricing issues that lead to some embarrassing price quotes. The KW price list is horrible to say the least when it comes to the EDC vs. non EDC kits. A few years ago when we would order "KW Clubsport with EDC" the kit would come with the EDC delete units for the same price as the kit shows on the price list. Now you have to take the price of the Clubsports (even though the price list says -"M3 (E90/E92) equipped with EDC (Electronic Damper Control)" and add the EDC delete units to get the total price for the kit. The "bundle" options does not have Clubsport listed- M3 (E90/E92) equipped with EDC (Electronic Damper Control) Sedan, Coupe (bundle: EDC disable unit 68510119 is included) At the end of the day I hope that you guys can work this out and move on.
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At the end of the day, OP, he misquoted you and nothing more. He fessed up to that and is still offering to work with you and give you a good deal despite the fact that you've been somewhat unreasonable (IMO). |
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+1 on LTBMW being a bad shop. I had my Vorsteiner diffuser installed by them and it kept falling off. In the end, I had to go to another shop and pay for the installation again to have the diffuser stay on completely. Long also broke a promise to me when I was shopping for an exhaust, which I don't want to go into details.
Don't go to LTBMW unless you want cheap work on your car.
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LISTEN VENDORS: IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILTY TO MAKE SURE YOUR QUOTES ARE ACCURATE BEFORE YOU QUOTE. people make mistakes sure, but in business mistakes cost you |
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So you were shop hopping and calling around for the best possible deal, and demand that they install for free, and do multiple adjustment to your liking?
If I were LTBMW I would have moved on a long time ago. |
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LTBMW was my first call to price out the clubsports. the price and installation he offered me were without any haggling whatsoever. they were his first and only quote. my problem was not that he had made a mistake, people make them. and even though his explanation was suspect i still agreed to the price increase. though long and I will disagree on this, the issue for me was not making good on the promise of free install. now all that said, I want to put an end to a lot of the bickering on here and announce that long and I have been talking in the background to see if we can come to a tentative agreement. I will keep everyone posted as to what the final outcome is.
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Either way... hope you guys get it figured out so you can clear it up and let everyone know that LTBMW are good guys. Quote:
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Wait.... since when are installs free..? and since when are KW CS $2500......... wtf? I never knew they were ever that cheap
I'd much rather get Motons....but $2500 is dirt fking cheap for coilovers, installed or not installed. Wth...if they were that cheap before the price hike, I should have bought a set. Damn... 3k still isn't all that bad for the CS though On a more thread related note, I used to have Long work on my 335i. Never really had a bad experience, and the prices were good. He helped me out late at night before he had his shop, great guy I've also met Sasan in the past and talked to him via text a couple of times, sounds like a nice guy too.
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Sounds like a bit of miscommunication. Hopefully everything works out between the two of you.
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often times in my experience vendors have discounted or "free" rates on install when you buy a product through them. they make money on the product as they get it from the supplier at a discounted rate.
hope the OP can get this worked out. Tough situation, but IMO at the end of the day dont make a quote unless you are going to stick with it. The price should have been checked by the vendor and if the guy agreed, the order should have been placed immediately. There is no way that the price could have increased in that short of a time between those two events. Anyway, best of luck on this one.
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Not sure exactly from when to when though
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Long and I have been discussing this in the background. And I just want everyone to know that we've settled our disagreement entirely.
We made a compromise and met somewhere in the middle - which is always the best way to do it. I do want to take an opporptunity say that Long went out of his way, even by taking a loss, to make this deal work, and that goes a long way with me. I really appreciate what he's been willing to do. We've put all our past disagreements aside, and I intend to have my KW Clubsports installed by Long and LTBMW next Saturday.... ....which is coincidentally the date of a huge LTBMW meet. I'll be attending that meet, as a show of our reconciliation. Should be about 200-300 cars there. For those who want to stop by and check it out, here's the link: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...=632374&page=8 I will update everyone one final time after my install is complete. I'm glad that Long and I were able to resolve our problems and it looks like we're going to see the results of that very soon. -esquire
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So you throw LTBMW under the bus to get your way, and weren't happy til you got your way. Now that LTBMW agrees to a deal and loses money you post up that you guys have come to an agreement?
Sounds like LT got the short end of the stick and now you'll be attending his meet? What a joke... |
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so there would be no time for the price to increase in the mean time.
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Long's and my dispute is finished, as I'm sure Long will attest to if need be. That simple. The only one injecting any drama here is you. I'm sure you can find more productive things to do with your time.
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Esquire, since you were able to resolve this with Long, I think you should update the initial post so that folks who read this know upfront that you settled and that Long went out of his way, and I think, above and beyond by taking a loss to keep you as a customer. I have never dealt with LTBMW, but I have read enough threads stating they are legit and this thread proves that yet again. Do him a solid and fix your initial post.
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Ive dealth with long so many times in the process of 4 years...he did a lot of stuff for my 335 and minor things for my m3 as well. I think you put the guy under a train if you ask me. He couldnt do it for that price he couldn't. What part of he made a mistake and there was a price hike could you not understand? Its normal people make mistakes. Just wouldnt do it that way, nor go as far as putting your story here. The man has such a good reputation, always gone out of his way for me. Ive even been to his house at times around 9PM for him to take care of things.
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Let's keep it civil in here. Thanks everybody.
Best regards, south
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