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I seriously agree. It's called M Dynamic Mode and it's NOT ON ALL M cars???
The WORST part of the current set up is, you HAVE to buy the Nav in order to get M Dynamic Mode. Can someone explain that to me. You can't get a simple car with all the performance options unless you get Nav with the ugly double hump. Makes sense since the sedan roof is larger than the coupe's. Quote:
A HUD is a LUXURY item? That's funny, when I drove an M5 with a HUD, it allowed me to keep my eyes on the track while still seeing what RPM I was at and what gear I was in. I guess I missed the luxury part of it. A rear view camera is a MUST??? This is pathetic.
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Logic 7 should be standard, or at the very least an option. It's annoying to have to choose between a subpar standard system and an ultra premium $2000 stereo system. Logic 7 should be standard and the premium sound should be about $900 max as an option on top of that.
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we deff see the members here who bought the car for the rights reasons or not by what they are saying
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does anyone really know why they didn't release the E90 with CF roof ? I'm clueless.
Safety ?
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09-15-2009, 01:00 AM | #49 |
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Honestly, I think it was just to make the coupe the more "special" version and that's about it. Some research could have pointed them to the fact that maybe most sedan buyers would have opted for the sun-roof so why bother you know? I think it was to have a clearer differentiation between coupe and sedan. You want "luxury"? Go sedan. You want "performance" go coupe. Product management at it's best.
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honestly I think its to justify the extra premium on the price.
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Its sad when a 2010 Mustang GT comes with a Rear keyhole (intergrated into the trunk lid spoiler) camera and displays on the rear view mirror.
PDC should have been standard when you check the M-DCT option All M3s if you check the Smart Phone Int ( Hello you picked this option cause you have the iPhone) and USB/iPOd should come with the 3G craddle and 6FL Cable!! |
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09-15-2009, 01:12 AM | #53 | |
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I actually agree with a lot of what u just mentioned. But i don't see why the Coupe has the option of a Sun-Roof and the Sedan doesnt have the option for a CF roof.
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09-15-2009, 01:19 AM | #54 | |
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but sometimes i feel that BMW doesn't really care about throwing these little freebies that make you extra extra happy...and honestly, i think loads of people care to have them. In all the BMWs i owned i had to say "oh man i can't believe i gotta pay for this option and order it next time i pay a visit to the service center" you never seem to get that free extra even the 7 series. there is always a gadget that is not a standard when it really should be.
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09-15-2009, 01:32 AM | #55 |
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floormats and a couple of bucks for gas
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09-15-2009, 02:33 AM | #56 |
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If you had to pay a higher sticker price would you still want all these funky toys as standard? The UK M3 comes with all sorts of stuff as standard..leather idrive alarm mdm etc but we pay a higher price for it so surely the better question would be whats not available as options that should be.
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09-15-2009, 04:29 AM | #57 |
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Maybe your 2 seater C6 ZO6 but not a 4 door car. Not for 70 grand. Not in this decade at least.
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agree that you should get an iPod cable standard if you select iPod integration. a lot of good points in this thread. there are definitely two distinct groups, the purists and the "luxurists," but i think some of us are in between. i obviously don't want a totally stripped M3, but i don't want my M3 loaded down with a bunch of tech stuff that I don't need. this is a bit OT, but my biggest complaint is with how the options are lumped into packages. i know that our overseas friends usually get to choose everything as standalone (which results in a much higher price tag), but it would be really nice to have more freedom for options here in the US. for example, it is a pity that you have to accept NAV in order to get MDM...it is also stupid that you need the premium package to get folding mirrors and homelink and, in doing so, you now give up speed cloth seats. I guess BMW NA is trying to appeal to the common denominator, but some of the groupings just suck.
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Standard: Assist, Leather, Sirius, iDrive/No Nav, iPod/USB, MDM, split rear seats in the Sedan
Optional Packages: Track Package (Brembo, Performance Seats, Alcantara interior including headliner, iDrive delete, leather delete, Sirius delete, Stereo level system/HiFi delete, Cup tires in 18" forged wheels, 15hp increase, different front rear bumpers, CF roof in Sedan); if M-DCT is added to the track package include an extra Track Drivelogic setting in both manual and in automatic modes, Luxury Package (Nav, Comfort Access, PDC/Rearview Camera, Homelink), Cold Package Stand alone options: Brembo, Full Leather (not extended), limited set of Individual options. Dealer installed retrofits: Nav, Alarm, Brembo, Performance seats with matching leather option or the availability of the OEM hides for custom upholstery. Raise optional equipment prices 10% to make up for additional standard equipment and cut in 40% the M3 production from now on; the days of talking about 100,000 sales in a model run are over. Two years in a row of M3 sales factory/financing subsidies in the USA are killing the resale value and image as well. Last edited by Technic; 09-15-2009 at 07:42 AM.. |
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If someone wanted MDM here they would HAVE TO pay E3,000 (or so) to get the entire iDrive. Nice! |
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TECHNIC FOR PRESIDENT! Great post! I like your idea for a track package. How much do you think that would run? From what you listed, probably 10k or more! They could easily get the hp gain with a performance air filter and an ECU remap. The only thing I don't like in your track package is stereo delete...I can't live without one! Maybe a new cardboard lined bootlid too? EDC definitely belongs in this package. It is a pity that this will never happen though. BMW could have pulled this off with the M3 Edition, but they failed. I wonder if we'll ever see a track or competition package M3? Maybe in the last MY? It would be nice to have an option for privacy glass (tint) in the USA, but not sure whether they could get away with that considering all of the different tint laws. Also, homelink should be standard equipment. Most M3s have a garage, and this is a simple and easy feature.
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09-15-2009, 09:23 AM | #63 |
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Rear and Front Camera How about just being able to turn the heater/ac fan off with a simple on/off button Dual controls on the heater over ride for the driver. Control both right and left temps with left control only . |
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1. Night vision. Obviously Nav (or just iDrive) would be a prerequisite.
2. The option of plain (not electric) seats if they save weight. 3. Instead of the sunshade option, I'd like to be able to buy the M3 (in the USA) with rear and side windows already tinted at the factory. 4. On a car of this price the alarm should be installed at the factory as standard. 5. Bluetooth should be standard. I don't think a backup camera, or even PDC for that matter, is really needed on the M3. But it is still nice to have the option I suppose. Maybe we should be grateful for the things the M3 doesn't come with: o That flower holder thingy like the VW bug has. o CB radio o Fuzzy dice hanging from the mirror o Bull horns on top of the kidney grills o A big-ass wing on the back
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I think the obsession with the camera's is for people CAN'T DRIVE FOR CRAP. Technic''s ideas are a good start, but iDrive should not be standard. I have no use for it and think it's ugly and it doesn't add any performance capability to the car. Brake ducting should be preparded for so you can just snap on some Performance ducts to the rotors.
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