The status on my car...

DLSJ5 · 04-08-2011, 12:44 PM

I now have my car back to stock, and no longer have the SC kit. Gintani to date has covered the motor repair and labor, which I very much appreciate. As far as the motor tear down, inspection and diagnosis, that is up to Gintani to let us know.

Others may have a different opinion and I certainly could be wrong, but after doing more research, my feeling is the motor threw a rod because the car did have a Water/Meth failure not long before it went, it appears 9.5 psi is probably too much boost in general on a stock motor regardless of the fuel, but on 91 octane with no WM @ 9.5psi the motor would not last long and it most likely compromised a rod bearing. Even with the WM system repaired, the damage was probably already done.

Here is the original thread on the subject: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=492801

On the stock setup with this used motor, running the Gintani X-pipe and Borla muffler, the car hit 355WHP, and 269WTQ. I also matched my previous best 60-130 time of 10.7s, so this used motor appears to be healthy and right where it should be.

SAE CF

STD CF

powertrip · 04-08-2011, 12:49 PM

Running stock ECU or GIAC?

DLSJ5 · 04-08-2011, 12:50 PM

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Running stock ECU or GIAC?

Hey Elden, it's a stock ECU.

powertrip · 04-08-2011, 01:17 PM

Damn, nice times Drew. Glad to see the red warrior back on the streets

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Hey Elden, it's a stock ECU.

DLSJ5 · 04-08-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by powertrip

Damn, nice times Drew. Glad to see the red warrior back on the streets

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Thanks buddy. Hope all is well with you, sorry to hear you are selling the M3.

Ryboy98 · 04-08-2011, 01:38 PM

Good to see you're back bud! Your new heart transplant seems to have been a success. Congrats. Thanks for the info, I certainly don't drive my car as much as you do but I'll definitely keep my eye on the w/m flow. I'm not going to have it much longer though...(hopefully) I'm going back to a p-car. LOL Good st see you brotha!

Jaypod · 04-08-2011, 02:15 PM

Glad to hear your car is back up and running!

DLSJ5 · 04-08-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryboy98

Good to see you're back bud! Your new heart transplant seems to have been a success. Congrats. Thanks for the info, I certainly don't drive my car as much as you do but I'll definitely keep my eye on the w/m flow. I'm not going to have it much longer though...(hopefully) I'm going back to a p-car. LOL Good st see you brotha!

Thanks Ryan, yes keep on eye on the WM. I would bring the boost down a bit too. Looking forward to some more vids from you, no doubt a 997tt would be a great choice if you decide to move on.

DLSJ5 · 04-08-2011, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypod

Glad to hear your car is back up and running!

Thanks J!

dlbrooks18 · 04-08-2011, 02:38 PM

Thanks for the info Drew, I just learned of your car being down.. happy you got it fixed.

E90///M3` · 04-08-2011, 02:47 PM

glad you're back... Mexico? We should do Mexico this weekend. It's my last free weekend in a long time! lol

powertrip · 04-08-2011, 03:41 PM

Yeah, the lease was up and i was bored with the car. I'm looking at the '12 GTR and CTS-V, but just found out about the '12 Z06 Centennial Edition

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Thanks buddy. Hope all is well with you, sorry to hear you are selling the M3.

flipm3 · 04-08-2011, 04:11 PM

congrats on getting the car up and running again! your motor definitely seems to be a healthy one.

do you plan on going back to Gintani's supercharger or going a different route?

Cptn Mo 703 · 04-08-2011, 08:57 PM

Nice the MR is back on the road...i was chasing after your NA 1/4 mile time but couldn't get anywhere close to it Dragtimes You'll be holding that number 1 spot for a while. GL with everything in the future

gixxer_kidd · 04-08-2011, 10:24 PM

Congrats on getting the car back together Drew

IMG · 04-08-2011, 11:14 PM

Good to see u up and running Drew !!
seems like a healthy motor to me....................Good Luck Bud!

DLSJ5 · 04-09-2011, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by dlbrooks18

Thanks for the info Drew, I just learned of your car being down.. happy you got it fixed.

Thanks man.

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glad you're back... Mexico? We should do Mexico this weekend. It's my last free weekend in a long time! lol

J, we will plan that, I'm with the kids this weekend, my wife is out of town running a half marathon!

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Yeah, the lease was up and i was bored with the car. I'm looking at the '12 GTR and CTS-V, but just found out about the '12 Z06 Centennial Edition

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Gotcha, good choices if you decide to move on!

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congrats on getting the car up and running again! your motor definitely seems to be a healthy one.

do you plan on going back to Gintani's supercharger or going a different route?

Thank you, Gintani took the supercharger back, my options are open.

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Originally Posted by Cptn Mo 703

Nice the MR is back on the road...i was chasing after your NA 1/4 mile time but couldn't get anywhere close to it Dragtimes You'll be holding that number 1 spot for a while. GL with everything in the future

Thanks, you ran an excellent time as well!

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Congrats on getting the car back together Drew

Appreciate that!

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Good to see u up and running Drew !!
seems like a healthy motor to me....................Good Luck Bud!

Izzy, thanks man and I appreciate your support!

Malek@MRF · 04-09-2011, 12:38 PM

12.0:1 compression and 9.5 psi of boost do not mix, even with water/meth its pushing the envelope, especially on 91 fuel.

I'm sorry you had to deal with all this trouble with your car Drew, but this never should have happened to begin with.

PS, the new motor looks like its running well.

flipm3 · 04-09-2011, 12:43 PM

it's great that Gintani has done a lot to help you.

i'm excited to see what route you continue for your car.

all the best!

11' AW M3 · 04-09-2011, 02:00 PM

good to hear you are back on the road and gintani took care of the situation. Do you think the value of your car dropped significantly now that you don't have the original motor in the car? How does the mileage reading on your car work? Was it reset to whatever the mileage was on the used motor?

ddigangi · 04-09-2011, 02:20 PM

glad things are taken care of man, i was nervous for awhile about how Gintani would handle it

DLSJ5 · 04-09-2011, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Malekreza11

12.0:1 compression and 9.5 psi of boost do not mix, even with water/meth its pushing the envelope, especially on 91 fuel.

I'm sorry you had to deal with all this trouble with your car Drew, but this never should have happened to begin with.

PS, the new motor looks like its running well.

Some excellent points, thanks Malek!

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Originally Posted by flipm3

it's great that Gintani has done a lot to help you.

i'm excited to see what route you continue for your car.

all the best!

Appreciate that.

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Originally Posted by 11' AW M3

good to hear you are back on the road and gintani took care of the situation. Do you think the value of your car dropped significantly now that you don't have the original motor in the car? How does the mileage reading on your car work? Was it reset to whatever the mileage was on the used motor?

Thanks! I'm not sure if it dropped, this motor has only 5K on it, the car had 24K.

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glad things are taken care of man, i was nervous for awhile about how Gintani would handle it

Thank you!

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DLSJ5 Brigadier General 501 Rep 4,033 Posts Drives: 2016 F82 M4 ZCP Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CA iTrader: (1)	The status on my car... I now have my car back to stock, and no longer have the SC kit. Gintani to date has covered the motor repair and labor, which I very much appreciate. As far as the motor tear down, inspection and diagnosis, that is up to Gintani to let us know. Others may have a different opinion and I certainly could be wrong, but after doing more research, my feeling is the motor threw a rod because the car did have a Water/Meth failure not long before it went, it appears 9.5 psi is probably too much boost in general on a stock motor regardless of the fuel, but on 91 octane with no WM @ 9.5psi the motor would not last long and it most likely compromised a rod bearing. Even with the WM system repaired, the damage was probably already done. Here is the original thread on the subject: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=492801 On the stock setup with this used motor, running the Gintani X-pipe and Borla muffler, the car hit 355WHP, and 269WTQ. I also matched my previous best 60-130 time of 10.7s, so this used motor appears to be healthy and right where it should be. SAE CF STD CF __________________ 16 F82 M4 DCT - ZCP - JB4 - 556WHP / 570WTQ 08 E92 M3 DCT - Bolt Ons - 60-130MPH 10.71s - 11.88 @ 118MPH - 377WHP ESS VT2-625 SC 60-130MPH 6.80s - 11.30 @ 129.3 MPH 586WHP / 379WTQ ESS VT3-750 - 60-130MPH 6.14s - 10.81 @ 135.13 MPH 690WHP/463WTQ Shift-S3ctor E92 M3 - 1/2 Mile Trap Speed WR - 174.13 MPH Last edited by DLSJ5; 04-09-2011 at 01:12 PM..
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