Decision made. Liqui Moly Ceratec added

jimk · 12-09-2013, 11:30 PM

Changed the oil with Pennzoil Ultra 5w-40 Euro (Ferrari approved oil) and added 540 ml of Liqui Moly Cetatec. The engine is definitely revving faster and with less drag. I had two cases of Pennzoil Ultra 5w-40 sitting around and I've decided to use that for the winter. Good timing as we have temperatures hovering below zero here in CO. I've added Ceratec in hopes to reduce rod bearing and other engine wear. We shall see how effective this additive is. Send an oil sample of the used TWS to blackstone for analysis and will perform another UOA sometime in April/May timeframe. I'm very curious to see how the Penzoil/Ceratec compares to TWS.

sworks335i · 03-31-2015, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jimk

Changed the oil with Pennzoil Ultra 5w-40 Euro (Ferrari approved oil) and added 540 ml of Liqui Moly Cetatec. The engine is definitely revving faster and with less drag. I had two cases of Pennzoil Ultra 5w-40 sitting around and I've decided to use that for the winter. Good timing as we have temperatures hovering below zero here in CO. I've added Ceratec in hopes to reduce rod bearing and other engine wear. We shall see how effective this additive is. Send an oil sample of the used TWS to blackstone for analysis and will perform another UOA sometime in April/May timeframe. I'm very curious to see how the Penzoil/Ceratec compares to TWS.

Any word on this? Quite an old post.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-31-2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sworks335i

Any word on this? Quite an old post.

Seems without words since 12-10-2013 !

thekurgan · 03-31-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Seems without words since 12-10-2013 !

I'm sure the OP had a rod bearing catastrophe and he left the board

///M Power-Belgium · 03-31-2015, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thekurgan

I'm sure the OP had a rod bearing catastrophe and he left the board

Mmm , I take this let's say.... 50/50 % serious with all the jokes on here , of course me included !

Link of failure ?

BTW....Seen this ? =>

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...5#post17646595

thekurgan · 03-31-2015, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Mmm , I take this let's say.... 50/50 % serious with all the jokes on here , of course me included !

Link of failure ?

BTW....Seen this ? =>

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...5#post17646595

Now that's a good threadjack.

jimk · 03-31-2015, 11:22 PM

Hi guys, no issues with the car and she's now supercharged with the original bearings. I haven't send in a blackstone report as I've discovered that the oil analysis will not be helpful with the latest bearings. Ceratec is in and now running 10W50 during the winter but I've only put maybe 500 miles on it since last November. No issues. Switching to 15W-47 custom made oil (yes, that's right, 15W-47) from BND automotive for the summer.

Helmsman · 04-01-2015, 08:29 AM

Custom made, what does that mean mate?

jimk · 04-01-2015, 03:17 PM

The lab and tribologist look into my M3 details such as engine info, compression ratio, oil pressure, clearances, supercharged or not, track usage, oil temps, etc. and come up with the recommended oil viscosity and additives that they mix specifically for my car.

Shredicus · 04-01-2015, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jimk

The lab and tribologist look into my M3 details such as engine info, compression ratio, oil pressure, clearances, supercharged or not, track usage, oil temps, etc. and come up with the recommended oil viscosity and additives that they mix specifically for my car.

Pretty neat. Why such a high cold weight though? Won't that exacerbate the clearance issues, or does the extra film strength outweigh the negatives?

jimk · 04-01-2015, 05:19 PM

It's a combination of things. First, the cold flow properties of the oil is way below what I need. Then there is a very stout additive package that coats the internals which helps with cold flow properties. Then there is increased oil pressure due to higher viscosity which helps move the oil faster.

italyix · 04-02-2015, 09:53 PM

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Then there is increased oil pressure due to higher viscosity which helps move the oil faster.

No, higher pressure means the oil is not moving fast enough, therefor creating resistance measured in pressure.

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jimk Captain 101 Rep 933 Posts Drives: 2018 M550i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Camarillo, CA iTrader: (8)	Changed the oil with Pennzoil Ultra 5w-40 Euro (Ferrari approved oil) and added 540 ml of Liqui Moly Cetatec. The engine is definitely revving faster and with less drag. I had two cases of Pennzoil Ultra 5w-40 sitting around and I've decided to use that for the winter. Good timing as we have temperatures hovering below zero here in CO. I've added Ceratec in hopes to reduce rod bearing and other engine wear. We shall see how effective this additive is. Send an oil sample of the used TWS to blackstone for analysis and will perform another UOA sometime in April/May timeframe. I'm very curious to see how the Penzoil/Ceratec compares to TWS.
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jimk Captain 101 Rep 933 Posts Drives: 2018 M550i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Camarillo, CA iTrader: (8)	Hi guys, no issues with the car and she's now supercharged with the original bearings. I haven't send in a blackstone report as I've discovered that the oil analysis will not be helpful with the latest bearings. Ceratec is in and now running 10W50 during the winter but I've only put maybe 500 miles on it since last November. No issues. Switching to 15W-47 custom made oil (yes, that's right, 15W-47) from BND automotive for the summer.
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jimk Captain 101 Rep 933 Posts Drives: 2018 M550i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Camarillo, CA iTrader: (8)	It's a combination of things. First, the cold flow properties of the oil is way below what I need. Then there is a very stout additive package that coats the internals which helps with cold flow properties. Then there is increased oil pressure due to higher viscosity which helps move the oil faster.
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