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Hey JMD, how have you been? How's that wicked Ackrapovic GT3!!!
While out blasting the back roads this afternoon, I was thinking about how comfortable these cars are while cruising. Even when attacking the apexes it amazes me how glued these cars are while retaining excellent road manners. I don't care what anyone says, a GT3 especially a .2 can easily be a dd and many including me would prefer it over the turbo. My GT3 is more compliant over the rough stuff than my 2005 911S. The suspension is so dialed in now. Porsche learned lots from the GT2, which as we know has passed to the GT3. There's no denying that a turbo will make passing everything like you're aboard the USS Enterprise and you asked Scottie for more power, but it's not like a GT3, again especially a .2, will leave you wishing for more power. Last edited by devo; 10-10-2010 at 08:41 PM.. |
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That is very impressive.
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Take a look at this website (RMS issue. Scroll down and read): http://www.gt3rsregistry.com/2008GT3RS/vin/2196.htm If you read on, Porsche Cars North America, Inc. replied to the RMS leak and said: Please be advised that GT3 engines have a design which is unique from other 911's because of it's exposure to very high RPM's. The rear main seal of these engines is held tight by a vacuum created inside the engine block. If the vehicle is not used for prolonged periods of time this vacuum pressure may decrease allowing a small amount of oil to seep past the seal. Due to this special design, oil seepage can occur in GT3 vehicles that are not driven on a regular basis. Your warranty manual indicates that your responsibility for normal vehicle use is for your vehicle to be driven daily over a distance of several miles. Your vehicle was designed with the assumption that it would be used within these guidelines. If it is not, you may experience some oil seepage; however, this is not a defect in the vehicle but simply a result of lack of use. To summarize if you have if you own a GT3, it should be driven daily over a distance of several miles. If not, the rear main seal will start to leak. So after reading the link above, I am assuming that low mileage '08-'09 997.2 GT3's that are for sale have these problems. |
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10-10-2010, 11:27 PM | #26 |
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First off...
With the 997.1 GT3 they didn't come with the PCM (Porsche Commnunicatin Management) which is an option before you can even order the Nav. Next, there is no non sunroof option at all. All 997s come with the sunroof and can't be ordered without it. This is to the displeasure of a lot of Porsche guys that want to track the car. Even if the car came with nav, the nav that came with the 997.1 cars was horrible. I know I had a 997.1S and my Garmin was a better nav than what came in that car. Dave
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That was just Porsche's BS answer to their infamous problem with those cars. They essentially have no fix for it. Ask the guys on the Rennlist boards and you'll see. Most of them are choked about this issue. |
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10-11-2010, 03:27 PM | #28 | |
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Here's a link of them with their permanent fix (Go to the second page under the username "sharkster): http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...d-again-2.html <--- CLICK! |
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10-11-2010, 03:31 PM | #29 | |
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Just because some on RL believe are annoyed with this issue does not lend any substance to their claim that it is a flaw. Porsche also claims that there are a few extra ponies to be had because of this RMS set up. Furthermore, they claim alternatives lessen the power output. Before you get all defensive show me your mechanical engineering pedigree as well as ultra high performance engine building resume and I might buy into your theory. I'm not saying that you can't be right, but I won't buy into it because of bunch of Rennlisters, or whomevers, are disturbed that some oil may seep onto the garage floor. I frequent RL so I am aware of the issues. Last edited by devo; 10-11-2010 at 03:43 PM.. |
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Gosh, soooo hawt. In my opinion, GT3 > any BMW.
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Btw, here's my previous post: I meant I am assuming that low mileage '08 997.1 GT3's that are for sale have these problems. |
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Btw, here's a link of them with their permanent fix (Go to the second page under the username "sharkster): http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/g...d-again-2.html <--- CLICK! |
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10-11-2010, 09:20 PM | #36 | |
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No one single 997.2 GT3 has had RMS issues... 90% of the 997.1 GT3's that had that issue were no driven much. Those people that say that they drove the car and it still happened, don't know that only driving the car 1-2 times per week doesn't qualify as regularly driving the car.... 10%-15% of the total 997.1 GT3, at the most, might have had RMS issues. And most were garage queens... Those little spots of oil don't hinder the cars performance or reliability in any way shape or form. It came with the territory, like the small cloud of smoke during cold starts, from time to time... its part of the design. |
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10-11-2010, 09:24 PM | #37 |
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Hey Devo,
Everything is great... Thanks. Sold the Akrapovic(great system, but didn't want to have $8k tided up in an exhaust), and currently testing something else; its louder but same/similar gains in most areas for 10% of the cost You got anything planned? |
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i had the JRZ setup on my E46 M3 and that was actually a great DD and much improved over stock in comfort and in handling and any other setup i tried in other friends E46 M3's and i got to test quite a few. the drop was like yours and .5" all around and i think that is the majic number on that car for a mix of comfort and handling etc.
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how much more would a used 997.2 run you vs the 997.1?? it seems like it is worth it to get the .2 from the way you talk about it. impressive numbers
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^about 80-90 for 997.1 GT3 about 120k for 997.2 GT3
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10-11-2010, 11:37 PM | #43 |
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wow didn't think it would be 30-40k difference. is it worth it to get the .2 version or only if you track the car?? is the .2 more comfortable on the roads??
i ask bc other then my M3 the GT3 is really the only other car that i really like and would want when i am ready to get rid of my M3 since BMW is no longer making NA engines. its either that or if i can bear AWD i would get an R8 maybe but i still really like the GT3 as a first choice. i wouldn't get the RS version bc i don't track my car
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As for the last part of your post, I would have thought it was written by me!!!! Your my twin! LOL There is no other car i would want between the M3 and GT3. Kinda sucks..wish there was more options for people like us! and the r8 is more than the gt3 and not as good imo...but maybe make it RWD! take out the front diff.
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