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05-01-2009, 03:45 PM | #23 |
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Yes, that is the question on my mind, but for the 365/345 kit. I PM'ed Gary, and hopefuly he will provide some accurate numbers here.
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05-01-2009, 03:52 PM | #24 |
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I don't know if the Brembo rotors offer better cooling or not, but the main issue is that we don't have cooling ducts for the rotors, and thus limited airflow. I am sure someone will soon come up with a kit soon (I mean ducting that runs from the front end and hooks up to a modified shield behind the rotors on the axle).
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05-01-2009, 05:34 PM | #25 |
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I trust PG's measurements, the guy totally geeks all his testing so I am sure it is solid
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150944 |
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This info validates badfish's stock rotor numbers and therefore proves that that OC's number were off: http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E9...sc_perforated/ Anyway, looking forward to your measurements and other weight info from Gary.
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05-02-2009, 08:42 AM | #29 | |
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I will weigh at scales at work that are use for shipping. Will be accurate at least to 1/10 kg so I'll get things nailed down Be good if Gary_C could just reach on the shelf and measure a few of these bad boys. |
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05-02-2009, 12:40 PM | #30 |
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Well, if they ask any questions you can say you just installed them because you like the "looks". Chances are good that if they're Brembo, they'll probably believe you.
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05-02-2009, 05:07 PM | #31 |
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Yeah, or if they are simply painted RED!
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05-03-2009, 04:14 AM | #32 |
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If BMW invested in some red caliper paint, some BREMBO stickers and turned up the brake servo boost 10% then the market for afterfit M3 BBKs would disappear overnight.
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05-04-2009, 12:19 PM | #33 |
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It still wouldn't be a fixed caliper design. BMW is starting to change their ways. The 135 has fixed calipers and the new X5/X6 M's are suppose to have multi-piston fixed calipers up front.
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05-04-2009, 12:51 PM | #34 |
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Those kits internals are still very diff then the kits you buy from Brembo, even though they are sourced from Brembo.
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The M3 brakes may not be jazzy expensive multi piston designer named anchors but they are relatively cheap, low maintenance and do the business on the street and with a pad/fluid upgrade they are plenty good enough for the casual tracker. I know most of you guys fully understand the pros and cons of a BBK but there are also plenty of peeps who get bamboozled into thinking they need a BBK, and fully expect significantly shorter braking distances as the principle benefit. |
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My main point is there's no reason for us not to have fixed caliper brakes in a $64+ car. I think most would agree fixed calipers are better than a sliding calper.
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Better in what sense...A Rolex may well be "better" than a Seiko but at the end of the day they only have to tell you the time. If the brakes work consistently and reliably from high speed on the street then I'm happy, I certainly don't want to pay extra for a cut down Brembo brake kit when the car is new or massive bills when the same Brembo brakes need an overhaul after X0,000 miles. |
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You'll need to read the follow-up on that thread. The failures were due to "custom" cut pads that didn't fit well. There have been no problems once proper pads were used.
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Yeah, Radition Joe stopped by the Glen and we were staring at the bumper trying to see where one can install cooling intakes. I don't know about segragating the engine intake. It should be possible to install a flatter brake cooling intake under all that. There is room down there. I'll make my own cooling intake. What I really need is the brake backing plate adaptor. Screw the warranty on this one. Maybe I'll just weld my own backing plate together if I get the dimensions right...
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