Too good to be true? (yet again)

codizle915 · 05-17-2011, 12:22 AM

BIMMERPOST / Classifieds

Asking Price:

None

Item Interest

I just found a listing for a e92 Alpine white M3 with 11k miles for only 33k, i emailed the seller and this was the response i got:

Hello there,

Thank you for your interest in my 2009 BMW M3. The car is in excellent running condition (no damages, accidents or scratches of course) and comes with a clear title, has only 11,010 miles. There is no lien on the car, there will be no monthly payments, no take over payments, just final price ($33,500). There is a reason for selling it for such a low price. I am passing through a divorce with my husband and I need to get rid of it fast.
I am located in Utah and I have the vehicle with me. I will ship it from here on my expense through DAS (Dependable Auto Shippers).
Giving the nature of this transaction we can escrow the payment with Google Checkout, and this way you're not buying something sight unseen. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 15-days inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or not before they release the funds to me.
If you are still interested just let me know and I'll get back to you with further details about the transaction.

You can see more photos of the car here:

Looking forward to hearing from you,
A*** M****

Thoughts?

gnhm3 · 05-17-2011, 12:32 AM

How can you even for a second believe this is real?

1. Not local
2. Price is way too good to be true
3. Divorce/ My husband bs story.

codizle915 · 05-17-2011, 12:39 AM

A man can dream ...

Deep down, I knew it was fake all along haha

Sorry for the stupid thread

Bluesummer · 05-17-2011, 12:42 AM

Tell her that you would fly to Utah

mikshroy · 05-17-2011, 02:22 AM

My friend just told me about this and he got the same email. Also, google "google escrow" and you will see all the scams that are happening with it.

Spyharpy · 05-17-2011, 02:57 AM

Note the focus of the email is not so much about the car but more about how to channel the payment to him to make it harder for you to get it or any portion of it back. Most legitimate sellers will not give you this kind of BS story. The moment you say you'll have someone there to inspect the car or you'll fly down to so see it in person, his story will change again. Guaranteed. These scams always have two components: a ridiculously low price to lure your attention and a non-traditional method to buy the alleged car while focusing on the "deposit" using a payment method that will not get you a refund. RUN AWAY!

gthal · 05-17-2011, 05:16 AM

This is a scam! It happens all of the time with very similar divorce stories and wanting to ship. If you go to see the car you will be wasting your airfare and time because it doesn't exist.

BayerischeMotorenWerke · 05-17-2011, 02:27 PM

If you have to ask...you should already know. Please email her saying you'll fly out to Utah with cash and you want to see the car.

theriz · 05-17-2011, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BayerischeMotorenWerke

If you have to ask...you should already know. Please email her saying you'll fly out to Utah with cash and you want to see the car.

+1

Tell us what she says.

benzo23 · 05-17-2011, 03:27 PM

HAHAHAHA this reminds me of a yamaha r1 i found on craigslist for 3k, same exact story with the shipping and the escrow and the 15 day bullshit...major scam

335OK · 05-17-2011, 04:10 PM

fly there, take the car to the local dealer.
its only 2 hours flight.
but we guess you will not see her after you get there.
confirm all the address and phone number....before you book your ticket.

Draper · 05-17-2011, 04:31 PM

If you have to ask the question, the answer is always yes.

If you are actually this desperate to sell your car, walk into a dealer (BMW, Nissan, Vespa, whatever...) and they will have no problem cutting you a check for a car priced at $20-30k below book value.

JCtx · 05-17-2011, 11:51 PM

I've said it a million times before: Just ask for a phone number to discuss car deal over the phone. Scammers will never provide it, for obvious reasons. And even if they did, no deposits, and copy of title and driver's license before any trip arangement is made.

AngelinIsRich08 · 05-18-2011, 10:01 PM

I had a similar incident with an M3 last year. It was an '09 coupe for $39k. Guy selling it was Johan. The only numbers he has listed were fax numbers and he wanted the money through google. He even had the correct VIN numbers too. And his story was of divorce too, said he'd personally drive it to my home too. Haha.

05-17-2011, 12:22 AM	#1
codizle915 Private First Class 16 Rep 103 Posts Drives: YMP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	Too good to be true? (yet again) BIMMERPOST / Classifieds Asking Price: None Item Interest I just found a listing for a e92 Alpine white M3 with 11k miles for only 33k, i emailed the seller and this was the response i got: Hello there, Thank you for your interest in my 2009 BMW M3. The car is in excellent running condition (no damages, accidents or scratches of course) and comes with a clear title, has only 11,010 miles. There is no lien on the car, there will be no monthly payments, no take over payments, just final price ($33,500). There is a reason for selling it for such a low price. I am passing through a divorce with my husband and I need to get rid of it fast. I am located in Utah and I have the vehicle with me. I will ship it from here on my expense through DAS (Dependable Auto Shippers). Giving the nature of this transaction we can escrow the payment with Google Checkout, and this way you're not buying something sight unseen. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the vehicle before paying me. You will have a 15-days inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the vehicle or not before they release the funds to me. If you are still interested just let me know and I'll get back to you with further details about the transaction. You can see more photos of the car here: Looking forward to hearing from you, A* M Thoughts? __________________ "I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul." -** William Ernest Henley
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gnhm3 Lieutenant Colonel 219 Rep 1,804 Posts Drives: F82 M4 / F87 M2 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: West LA iTrader: (19)	How can you even for a second believe this is real? 1. Not local 2. Price is way too good to be true 3. Divorce/ My husband bs story. __________________
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codizle915 Private First Class 16 Rep 103 Posts Drives: YMP Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	A man can dream ... Deep down, I knew it was fake all along haha Sorry for the stupid thread __________________ "I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul." - William Ernest Henley
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05-17-2011, 02:22 AM	#5
mikshroy Enlisted Member 4 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0)	My friend just told me about this and he got the same email. Also, google "google escrow" and you will see all the scams that are happening with it.
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05-17-2011, 02:57 AM	#6
Spyharpy New Member 6 Rep 12 Posts Drives: M4 in the midst Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bay Area, CA iTrader: (0)	Note the focus of the email is not so much about the car but more about how to channel the payment to him to make it harder for you to get it or any portion of it back. Most legitimate sellers will not give you this kind of BS story. The moment you say you'll have someone there to inspect the car or you'll fly down to so see it in person, his story will change again. Guaranteed. These scams always have two components: a ridiculously low price to lure your attention and a non-traditional method to buy the alleged car while focusing on the "deposit" using a payment method that will not get you a refund. RUN AWAY!
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05-17-2011, 05:16 AM	#7
gthal Major General 1903 Rep 5,678 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	This is a scam! It happens all of the time with very similar divorce stories and wanting to ship. If you go to see the car you will be wasting your airfare and time because it doesn't exist. __________________ 2020 X3 M40i \| Black \| Current DD 2020 C8 Corvette \| Z51 \| Torch Red ... built and waiting for delivery 2016 M2 \| Long Beach Blue \| 6MT 2015 M4 \| Austin Yellow \| DCT 2012 MB C63AMG \| 2011 E92 M3 \| 2010 E92 M3
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BayerischeMotorenWerke Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 259 Posts Drives: slowly and carefully Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Motel 6 iTrader: (0)	If you have to ask...you should already know. Please email her saying you'll fly out to Utah with cash and you want to see the car.
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05-17-2011, 03:27 PM	#10
benzo23 Colonel 74 Rep 2,848 Posts Drives: 14 F30 AW MSport Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: FL iTrader: (1)	HAHAHAHA this reminds me of a yamaha r1 i found on craigslist for 3k, same exact story with the shipping and the escrow and the 15 day bullshit...major scam
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05-17-2011, 04:10 PM	#11
335OK Private First Class 10 Rep 134 Posts Drives: E93 M3 Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	fly there, take the car to the local dealer. its only 2 hours flight. but we guess you will not see her after you get there. confirm all the address and phone number....before you book your ticket.
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Draper Brigadier General 3460 Rep 3,995 Posts Drives: M4 Comp / Macan Turbo Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Denver iTrader: (38)	If you have to ask the question, the answer is always yes. If you are actually this desperate to sell your car, walk into a dealer (BMW, Nissan, Vespa, whatever...) and they will have no problem cutting you a check for a car priced at $20-30k below book value. __________________ Current: G82 M4 Comp xDrive // Frozen Deep Grey Current: 95B.1 Macan Turbo // Dark Blue Metallic
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JCtx Major General 258 Rep 5,012 Posts Drives: No BMW yet Join Date: May 2008 Location: El Paso TX iTrader: (0)	I've said it a million times before: Just ask for a phone number to discuss car deal over the phone. Scammers will never provide it, for obvious reasons. And even if they did, no deposits, and copy of title and driver's license before any trip arangement is made.
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05-18-2011, 10:01 PM	#14
AngelinIsRich08 Banned 61 Rep 708 Posts Drives: '11 X5M, '09 CTS Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: St. Louis, MO iTrader: (0)	I had a similar incident with an M3 last year. It was an '09 coupe for $39k. Guy selling it was Johan. The only numbers he has listed were fax numbers and he wanted the money through google. He even had the correct VIN numbers too. And his story was of divorce too, said he'd personally drive it to my home too. Haha.
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