M-World Presents: New KW Clubsport 3-Way for M3/1M

Richard@M-World · 03-26-2012, 11:59 PM

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M-World Presents: KW Clubsport 3-Way for M3/1M
Championship-winning performance for daily drivers

M-World is pleased work in partnership with KW to install and review one of the first available 3-way kits in the world. Based on the championship-winning Competition 3-way, the Clubsport 3-way is a brand new line of coil over with near-stock ride quality on the street and Clubsport level performance on the race track.

What the hell is 3-way?
The Clubsport 2-way provides independent rebound and low-speed compression adjustments. The 3-way adds high-speed compression adjustments.

On the street, the ride is much improved especially in cities with poor road conditions. The ability to significantly tone down the damping curve allows the car to ride very comfortably over large road imperfections such as potholes.

On the track, 3-way offers enhanced stability and platform control over large bumps and curbstones, offering advanced drivers total control of the chassis.

How are adjustments made?
All damping adjustments are made using adjustment wheels. Rebound (18 clicks) is adjusted at the top of the shaft. Low-speed (7 clicks) and high-speed (14 clicks) compression are adjusted on the piggyback reservoir. Each click is clear and distinct. All changes can be easily made on the ground without taking any wheels off.

How is the ride comfort on the street?
We had Clubsport 2-way on the M3 prior to installation so we had an immediate baseline to compare against the 3-way. On the streets, with high-speed compression on softest setting, the car is now able to ride through large road imperfections very smoothly. The damper is able to completely absorb the impact without upsetting the chassis of the car. The ride quality is excellent and not unlike stock suspension.

How is it on the track?
We will be there shortly. Stay tuned.

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Sean@PYSpeed.com · 03-27-2012, 12:36 AM

Kw well done! Thanks for the pics as well.

klammer · 03-27-2012, 07:02 PM

Let the suspension wars begin!

Black Gold · 03-27-2012, 09:25 PM

How's the ride quality compared to kw v3?

Are these on your car Richard?

Richard@M-World · 03-27-2012, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KennyPowers

How's the ride quality compared to kw v3?

Are these on your car Richard?

On smoother roads, the ride will be similar.

But on bumpy roads (i.e. Houston, Chicago, etc.), 3-way will actually be more compliant because of the ability to significantly tone down high-speed compression damping. V3 and Clubsport 2-way have fixed high-speed compression damping.

These are installed on Hank's (orion565) car, who had KW Clubsport 2-way.

orion565 · 03-28-2012, 03:22 PM

I second everything Richard described in the first post. I have been riding around town for 4 days and I am in a much better mood once I get out of the car after being on a terrible road.

We see what happen to my lap times on Saturday, stay tuned.

datbimmerdoe · 03-28-2012, 04:21 PM

good shit!

aus · 03-28-2012, 05:43 PM

Thanks Richard.
How would these compare to the Competition KW's you also use?

C2VNY · 04-01-2012, 08:17 PM

Interesting, If there really that good on the street, definetly keeping a eye on these

esquire · 04-01-2012, 09:48 PM

I'm jealous. any comment on price?

Richard@M-World · 04-01-2012, 10:40 PM

$5,649 MSRP.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus

Thanks Richard.
How would these compare to the Competition KW's you also use?

Will report back after I spend more time on Hank's car.

smihalik · 04-02-2012, 11:29 AM

You had me right up until the $5600 MSRP!

Eugene-TAIWAN · 04-02-2012, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smihalik

You had me right up until the $5600 MSRP!

Beedub · 04-03-2012, 07:35 AM

is this available for any car where normal clubsports are already out??? i.e the z4m???

Richard@M-World · 04-03-2012, 06:05 PM

Available on 1M and E46, E90, E92, E93 M3.

Adriansideways · 04-07-2012, 12:51 AM

Awesome looks great!

esquire · 04-07-2012, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard@M-World

$5,649 MSRP.

Will report back after I spend more time on Hank's car.

Curious to hear this report. How is this 3 way kit ?

Bob MG · 04-07-2012, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smihalik

You had me right up until the $5600 MSRP!

You mean...you had me at hello. LOl

RickyBobby · 04-09-2012, 10:10 PM

Are these the same internal twin tube design as the 2 way clubsports? Do you have any shock dynos you can share?

Richard@M-World · 04-10-2012, 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickyBobby

Are these the same internal twin tube design as the 2 way clubsports? Do you have any shock dynos you can share?

Compression valves are completely different than the 2-ways. The new low/high speed compression valve now uses orifice openings to control the bleed.

The rebound mechanism is the same.

Dyno... let me see what I can get.

mkPOTO · 04-10-2012, 09:23 AM

in for more info

GTM_Challenge · 04-13-2012, 03:11 PM

Interested to see what the adjustment range is on these from soft to hard in a shock dyno. I felt the normal clubsports were too soft for me even on street tires. The springs seemed a bit soft for me too. Do these use the same spring rates as the 2 ways?

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Richard@M-World 78 Rep 684 Posts Drives: NASA TTA #92 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: TX/IL iTrader: (0)	M-World Presents: New KW Clubsport 3-Way for M3/1M M-World Presents: KW Clubsport 3-Way for M3/1M Championship-winning performance for daily drivers M-World is pleased work in partnership with KW to install and review one of the first available 3-way kits in the world. Based on the championship-winning Competition 3-way, the Clubsport 3-way is a brand new line of coil over with near-stock ride quality on the street and Clubsport level performance on the race track. What the hell is 3-way? The Clubsport 2-way provides independent rebound and low-speed compression adjustments. The 3-way adds high-speed compression adjustments. On the street, the ride is much improved especially in cities with poor road conditions. The ability to significantly tone down the damping curve allows the car to ride very comfortably over large road imperfections such as potholes. On the track, 3-way offers enhanced stability and platform control over large bumps and curbstones, offering advanced drivers total control of the chassis. How are adjustments made? All damping adjustments are made using adjustment wheels. Rebound (18 clicks) is adjusted at the top of the shaft. Low-speed (7 clicks) and high-speed (14 clicks) compression are adjusted on the piggyback reservoir. Each click is clear and distinct. All changes can be easily made on the ground without taking any wheels off. How is the ride comfort on the street? We had Clubsport 2-way on the M3 prior to installation so we had an immediate baseline to compare against the 3-way. On the streets, with high-speed compression on softest setting, the car is now able to ride through large road imperfections very smoothly. The damper is able to completely absorb the impact without upsetting the chassis of the car. The ride quality is excellent and not unlike stock suspension. How is it on the track? We will be there shortly. Stay tuned. __________________ Authorized AiM Dealer - Solo/Solo DL \| SmartyCam HD \| www.m-world.us
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