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10-16-2012, 01:24 PM | #67 | |
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I can make recommendations for alignment, but they are baselines. One of the reasons you use a camber plate (other than more camber) is the ease of adjustability. Depending on the tires you use, the way you drive, the conditions of your bushings and other factors, you might want a little more or little less camber or toe. Experience will tell you how you want the car to feel on the track and street. Do you want it more nervous and quick acting or more stable and slower to react? Learning how to use the adjustability allows you to make changes and fine tune your alignment for your exact situation.
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Just my opinion. I do drive about 1500 miles per month on the street plus about 3 days at the track/mo. I drive my E46 with -3.0 camber up front. Above is what the tires looked like using my rotation schedule sans the tire flip.
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10-20-2012, 10:02 PM | #72 |
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Vorshlag plates worked great!
Update: Vorshlag camber plates worked well at TWS PDS. The increased front/rear camber allowed me to lower my best lap time (CCW) by nearly 2 seconds. I set a new PB of 1:59.6 and averaged 2:01-2:02 most of the day. Tire temps across the thread was much better and only varied 5 degrees. Tire pressures (Hankook R-S3's) were 32 degrees cold and 37 degrees hot. I will be increasing the front camber to -2.5 before the next track day in search of a little more front grip.
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With your plates, its even more satisfying when I catch you! Haha.
Seriously, nice driving today. It took me the whole session!
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10-20-2012, 10:19 PM | #74 |
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Thanks! It was a lot of fun! Glad you decided to ditch MSR and do TWS instead. I just registered for November.
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10-21-2012, 12:05 PM | #75 |
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First time attaching vid. Hope this works!
This is a video showing neutral handling using Vorshlag camber plates and -2.1 degrees front camber. Rear was set at -2.0 degrees, with front and rear toe set at .05 degrees per side. Tire temps did not vary more than 5 degrees from inner to outer. I will try increasing front camber to -2.5 next track day.
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HPA is the largest Vorshlag BMW camber plate stocking dealer! Nearly all strut profile and spring perch sizes are all in stock. Including the hard to find JRZ and Ohlins.
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Plates went in today. Set front to negative 2.5 and rear to 2.0 with a neutral toe up front and slight toe in out back if I remember right. Track test sunday but will probably be fairly wet.
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10-31-2012, 11:01 AM | #79 |
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How many more sessions can I expect on these RS3's?
I have 24 sessions on a set of Hankook RS3's and I wanted to know if they have enough thread left for another weekend (12 sessions)? All four tires are in the same condition, and have been recently flipped on the rim to prevent cording outer edge (right side is new outer edge). I have already purchased a new set of tires, but do not have the space to take to the track with me.
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You're about halfway...maybe. Definitely good for another weekend.
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10-31-2012, 05:39 PM | #81 |
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Thanks! Have fun at MSRH this weekend!
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Yes, the now inside edge is most worn. Camber plates sooner would have given me more even wear. Thanks!
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positive results for me today at Pacific Raceways. Had slightly damp track for most of the day and still managed 2 consecutive laps both of which were PRs. Camber plates and alignment made it a little more tricky to drive in the wet but made me feel like superman once it dried out some.
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and they work. one of my best mods, along with track pads and tune.
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I increased front camber with Vorshlag plates to -2.5 deg. I think the handling is now spot on. The car now rotates much easier in tight corners by modulating throttle. The characteristic push of the stock setup is now gone. I did manage to set a new personal best. TWS (CCW) 1:58:95 on worn RS3's. I will be switching to NT01's for the next HPDE. I will post impressions of NT01's with Vorshlag plates.
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