Price check

RowanBuds · 03-13-2018, 08:44 AM

Hello all, I'm a frequent user of the F80 forum here, and wanted to get a market pricing check from some people who have more knowledge with the E9x than I do.

Car details are:

One owner since new
All servicing looks to have been done at BMW dealerships - I do not have access to the prior owners records, just the dealership and carfax reports.
odd interval from 1500 miles to 16k miles with no service entries - I think that's an anomaly and am trying to hunt down the missing service.
71,000 miles
Sparkling Graphite on black ( I do not believe extended)
Silver trim
6MT
Adaptive Xenon headlights
Sunroof
Comfort Access
DDC
Power Heated seats
Navigation
In service date: 7/26/2008

From what I can tell there have been no Rod Bearings done or Throttle Actuators. Car's definitely got pock marking on the front bumper and one nastier ding on the hood - not fixable without paint.

What would you think is a reasonable ask/offer cost on this particular vehicle.

thanks for the help!

dparm · 03-13-2018, 09:31 AM

Low 20s, probably.

The interval of 1500-16000 is not odd. The car will tell you when to get an oil change and that's about right (every 12-15k, depending on driving style -- the longer side means it probably saw a lot of low-risk highway miles).

GT3fan · 03-13-2018, 10:52 AM

Assuming accident free, I’d say $23-24k. Sparkling graphite is a great one year color.

Nickthedude · 03-13-2018, 11:10 AM

I've started to see E46 M3's 6MT Coupes 60-90k miles going for $20kish

It would seem that clean E46's and "enjoyed" E9X's prices are soon to intersect?

Bartledoo · 03-13-2018, 01:15 PM

Unfortunately some owners abide by the 15k oil change intervals. I would avoid those cars as I have a suspicion that those owners are more likely to abandon proper warm-up as well.

dparm · 03-13-2018, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ksteckba

Unfortunately some owners abide by the 15k oil change intervals. I would avoid those cars as I have a suspicion that those owners are more likely to abandon proper warm-up as well.

Maybe. If the car saw lots of highway miles it's probably fine. Big sump, low engine load.

EricSMG · 03-13-2018, 07:32 PM

If the car is otherwise pristine - I mean near perfect all around then mid-20s. Condition is king in my book. It's not practical to think you can turn a rough car into a nice car but start with a nice car and you can keep it nice.

I would also be interested in how it drives. Does the motor rip up top or does it seem flat? Are the steering and front suspension nice and tight? What are the condition of the brakes and tires (that's ~$2500 right there to do them "right")?

For reference, I just paid 33k for a virtually perfect '08 6MT sedan with 30k miles.

shimmy23 · 03-13-2018, 08:40 PM

Pricing subjective to where you live too. I’d say 23k-27k. $27k would be a pristine car and I mean damn near perfect

GRUESOM3 · 03-13-2018, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EricSMG

If the car is otherwise pristine - I mean near perfect all around then mid-20s. Condition is king in my book. It's not practical to think you can turn a rough car into a nice car but start with a nice car and you can keep it nice.

I would also be interested in how it drives. Does the motor rip up top or does it seem flat? Are the steering and front suspension nice and tight? What are the condition of the brakes and tires (that's ~$2500 right there to do them "right")?

For reference, I just paid 33k for a virtually perfect '08 6MT sedan with 30k miles.

Was that the silver and red interior that was posted on Craigslist not too long ago? That was a nice car.

That's a great price , on the east coast it's getting hard to get a clean e90

EricSMG · 03-14-2018, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRUESOM3

Was that the silver and red interior that was posted on Craigslist not too long ago? That was a nice car.

That's a great price , on the east coast it's getting hard to get a clean e90

Jet Black/Black from an exotic car dealer here in SoCal.

It's an okay price, not great, not bad. Car is cherry though.

Dyrstr8s · 03-14-2018, 11:40 AM

Low 20's seems reasonable.
I just bought an '08 e90, optioned similarly, with 51k for $27k.
Two days after I bought it, dealer had to replace the throttle actuators. DSC and emissions errors, limp mode, etc.
Glad it happened right away so it was fixed for free!

GRUESOM3 · 03-14-2018, 11:57 AM

And engines are still 10k despite the depreciation interesting

GSTE34 · 03-21-2018, 08:43 PM

I would have to say 22k-28k for an 08 sedan with those options and mileage. Based on kbb value. I bought my 08 e90 sedan had 79k premium package 25k keep in mind car sat on the lot for around 6 months. Price was reduced from 28k

94jedi · 03-22-2018, 06:40 AM

low 20's for sure. fixing the cosmetic stuff adds up as does maintenance. figure new motor mounts too, among other things, when you have the bearings done.

RowanBuds · 03-22-2018, 09:56 AM

Thanks for the input guys. Pending PPI I think my buy price will slot comfortably between the 23-24k range and think that is appropriate. The front end definitely should have been clearbra'd given the amount of obvious highway use, but the car itself is in great shape. Service records check out properly and car "feels" right - it drives like it has 20k miles on it.

Given the blemishes, and mileage, this sure isn't a 27-29k car without lots of maintenance documented. But, for one that I won't feel bad about putting mileage on, this should fit the bill.

Plans from purchase would look like this:

Starting at the top will be the day 1/2's and the remainder likely by the time it gets put away for next winter.

Oil change and blackstone analysis
New belt(s)
Trans/Diff/Brake/PS/coolant all flushed
I think the car is going to need pads and maybe rotors in the back
lubricate throttle valve springs (maybe do lifetime actuators which would be the impetus for this)
Plugs
Rod Bearings (Potentially DIY this one, but not sure yet)
Motor mounts
any dry/cracking bushings in suspension will be addressed

Anything else that is a "while I'm in there" that would be recommended?

NoHedge · 03-22-2018, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSTE34

I would have to say 22k-28k for an 08 sedan with those options and mileage. Based on kbb value. I bought my 08 e90 sedan had 79k premium package 25k keep in mind car sat on the lot for around 6 months. Price was reduced from 28k

When did you purchase your M3?

Montaver · 03-22-2018, 05:26 PM

With that mileage, defo do the bearings. Easy to do the engine mounts at the same time. My engine mounts were wrecked at only 30k miles. The engine feels much more locked down on gear changes with new mounts. Given you are in Bergen County I'd recommend ACM for the bearings, I had mine done there.

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RowanBuds Colonel 1707 Rep 2,053 Posts Drives: 3 pedal 718, G05, MkVII GTI Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen County, NJ iTrader: (0)	Price check - 2008 E90 6MT Hello all, I'm a frequent user of the F80 forum here, and wanted to get a market pricing check from some people who have more knowledge with the E9x than I do. Car details are: One owner since new All servicing looks to have been done at BMW dealerships - I do not have access to the prior owners records, just the dealership and carfax reports. odd interval from 1500 miles to 16k miles with no service entries - I think that's an anomaly and am trying to hunt down the missing service. 71,000 miles Sparkling Graphite on black ( I do not believe extended) Silver trim 6MT Adaptive Xenon headlights Sunroof Comfort Access DDC Power Heated seats Navigation In service date: 7/26/2008 From what I can tell there have been no Rod Bearings done or Throttle Actuators. Car's definitely got pock marking on the front bumper and one nastier ding on the hood - not fixable without paint. What would you think is a reasonable ask/offer cost on this particular vehicle. thanks for the help! __________________ Moved to the darkside: '23 718 GT4; 11-10-2022. Le Mans Blue F80 - Munich 5-22-2015 / US 7-7-2015 / SOLD 9-17-2022 ED Recap Arctic Grey G05 - Spartanburg 8-29-2019 X5 PCD Recap
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dparm Stop the hate, get a V8 3850 Rep 8,625 Posts Drives: C7 Corvette GS, AMG C63 S Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Frisco, TX iTrader: (1)	Low 20s, probably. The interval of 1500-16000 is not odd. The car will tell you when to get an oil change and that's about right (every 12-15k, depending on driving style -- the longer side means it probably saw a lot of low-risk highway miles). __________________ Now: 2017 Corvette Grand Sport, 2021 AMG C63 S sedan Past: 2011.5 M3 sedan ZCP
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EricSMG Captain 576 Rep 829 Posts Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	If the car is otherwise pristine - I mean near perfect all around then mid-20s. Condition is king in my book. It's not practical to think you can turn a rough car into a nice car but start with a nice car and you can keep it nice. I would also be interested in how it drives. Does the motor rip up top or does it seem flat? Are the steering and front suspension nice and tight? What are the condition of the brakes and tires (that's ~$2500 right there to do them "right")? For reference, I just paid 33k for a virtually perfect '08 6MT sedan with 30k miles.
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shimmy23 F15 daddymobile 2350 Rep 3,510 Posts Drives: GS X5 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: WA iTrader: (3)	Pricing subjective to where you live too. I’d say 23k-27k. $27k would be a pristine car and I mean damn near perfect
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Dyrstr8s Registered 5 Rep 3 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Sedan 6MT Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Des Moines, IA iTrader: (0)	Low 20's seems reasonable. I just bought an '08 e90, optioned similarly, with 51k for $27k. Two days after I bought it, dealer had to replace the throttle actuators. DSC and emissions errors, limp mode, etc. Glad it happened right away so it was fixed for free!
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94jedi Major 829 Rep 1,254 Posts Drives: 2009 e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	low 20's for sure. fixing the cosmetic stuff adds up as does maintenance. figure new motor mounts too, among other things, when you have the bearings done. __________________ 2009 E92 M3 build thread: https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1754875 Follow me on IG - www.instagram.com/the_driven_enthusiast
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RowanBuds Colonel 1707 Rep 2,053 Posts Drives: 3 pedal 718, G05, MkVII GTI Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bergen County, NJ iTrader: (0)	Thanks for the input guys. Pending PPI I think my buy price will slot comfortably between the 23-24k range and think that is appropriate. The front end definitely should have been clearbra'd given the amount of obvious highway use, but the car itself is in great shape. Service records check out properly and car "feels" right - it drives like it has 20k miles on it. Given the blemishes, and mileage, this sure isn't a 27-29k car without lots of maintenance documented. But, for one that I won't feel bad about putting mileage on, this should fit the bill. Plans from purchase would look like this: Starting at the top will be the day 1/2's and the remainder likely by the time it gets put away for next winter. Oil change and blackstone analysis New belt(s) Trans/Diff/Brake/PS/coolant all flushed I think the car is going to need pads and maybe rotors in the back lubricate throttle valve springs (maybe do lifetime actuators which would be the impetus for this) Plugs Rod Bearings (Potentially DIY this one, but not sure yet) Motor mounts any dry/cracking bushings in suspension will be addressed Anything else that is a "while I'm in there" that would be recommended? __________________ Moved to the darkside: '23 718 GT4; 11-10-2022. Le Mans Blue F80 - Munich 5-22-2015 / US 7-7-2015 / SOLD 9-17-2022 ED Recap Arctic Grey G05 - Spartanburg 8-29-2019 X5 PCD Recap Last edited by RowanBuds; 03-22-2018 at 10:19 AM..
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Montaver Lieutenant Colonel 2178 Rep 1,662 Posts Drives: G87 M2 & M340i LCI Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	With that mileage, defo do the bearings. Easy to do the engine mounts at the same time. My engine mounts were wrecked at only 30k miles. The engine feels much more locked down on gear changes with new mounts. Given you are in Bergen County I'd recommend ACM for the bearings, I had mine done there.
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