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Bumped an old thread but I have the DCT tune and it's a must have. So is the Servo Tune. The DCT tune really helps with the sluggish behavior of the DCT.
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Ok cool, appreciate the input. I was debating if I should get the DCT tune or not, I guess I'll go ahead and pick it up since their running a group buy for the summer.
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You already missed the second one I think. Just call Benvo and see what he says.
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I noticed a number of posts in this thread about how the DSC comes on much more after the tune. I hope people realize that all this means is that you are not really getting the extra power to the ground. So what if you have an extra 12-15 hp? If you don't have the traction to take advantage of it, the DSC/traction systems will just cut the power to the wheels.
The M3 is already traction limited in lower gears with the stock ECU programming. The real benefit here is the subjective feel of the power band, and how the car may be able to pull in higher gears, where traction is not a concern. So....don't be so happy about your DSC light kicking in more. Be happy about how much better your car feels in general and how it pulls at 80mph when you down shift and punch it. And yeah.....I haven't done this yet, but I've just heard so many great things about the tune, both online and in person, that I will likely take the plunge too. I really don't care about the added hp, as the objective benefit is trivial. I do care about how it makes an already great feeling engine even that much more enjoyable in its power delivery.
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Also, when I was on ZCP's, my DSC light would flash very quick between 1st and 2nd. But it's not like it was completely out of control by any means.
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Definitely not. A wider tire does not automatically result in more forward traction. As you get more power, you need a suspension that is capable of keeping up with new power and to put that power to the ground.
Suspension, brakes, rubber, power, in that order if you really want to do it right. But the nominal +5hp here and +8hp there isn't really enough to warrant a whole lot of distress. But you'd be a fool to bolt on a SC ahead of having your suspension, brakes and tires up to snuff to keep up with an additional 100hp.
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All I am saying is that the subjective feel is more the important thing here, and that the fact the the DSC kicks in more isn't something to specifically be happy about. No different than the current crop of M5 owners who want to boost power to over 600hp which can be very easily done. What's the point? The car can't properly put even it's existing power to the ground.
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And I'm saying this in general. I've never felt like I've ever had traction issues really, even with the 220M's my car came with. I think DSC kicking in from 1st to 2nd from a standstill is to be expected. How many 400+ hp RWD cars do we know that won't chirp the tires at all when launching hard?
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I was running 12mm spacers all around too. I'm 99% sure you can go 255 + 12mm spacers up front no problem. Heck people are doing 10" ZCP's all the way around too, with a drop at that. But like you, I was waiting for my fronts to wear, but the deal came up (a trade) so they are gone now.
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I got mike's tune last week, and the car feels great. The servotronic and the cold start changes are the most immediately noticeable. Butt dyno says the car feels a bit quicker, but, you know how much the butt dyno is worth. The M3 is already a quick car and I don't really drive hard, so for me, I feel that the servotronic tuning (now and down the road) was worth the $1k alone.
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Nobody here is "happy" the DSC is going off for the sake of it going off but rather they are happy that the dsc goes off more easily because it is an indicator of improved power to the ground. If it goes off more easily with the same driving as you normally did and it did not go off, than it is an indicator that more power is going to the ground. Whether it is or not or how much is another thing but for some reason Larthal is totally missing the point of why someone potentially would be "happy" to see the dsc light coming on after a tune
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Reading these reviews are making me more and more excited about getting a tune but I notice that the BPM tune is alot more expensive than the DCT GTS Flash that people are getting as well from Alpine MSS. I'd love some help on an explanation as to why one is better than the other.
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I believe there have been several threads discussing this. It appears that all of the DCT tunes offered by the different vendors including Dinan are the same as they all start the tranny in D2 and save your previous S setting.
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Thanks boss. Still new to forums and searching this whole thing takes a while haha
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No problem. I see you're in Houston. PM me if you want to discuss further.
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