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03-03-2008, 10:49 PM | #23 | |
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We definitely need to get to the 3000lb performance hybrid. Without getting too political, our energy policy should deal mostly with funding basic technologies such as batteries (and other forms of energy storage) and deal less with how much ethanol we produce. It’s not all boring stuff. For example laminated flywheels may surface in F1 cars very soon. If we spent half as much on energy storage as we did getting to the moon I think that everyone - including us enthusiasts - would be thrilled with the end results
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03-04-2008, 03:07 AM | #25 | |
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Difference is about 2kg for the battery itself. Best regards, south
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This is just what I read on this website and I dont know how true it is but I thought I might bring it up.
http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_sh...onclusion.html "We won't be getting it in the U.S., but elsewhere, the M3 will have BMW's new brake energy regeneration system, which sounds more complex and hybrid-y than it actually is." |
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03-04-2008, 12:15 PM | #27 |
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I don't see why this is even necessary. I know about high tech alternator that will shut off to create more power, but it's not as if the M3 were a hybrid and needs to be super energy efficient. If they leave it off, I'll be glad because I think it will become a maintenance item we don't need in the future.
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03-04-2008, 12:20 PM | #28 | |
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P = V * I = 12.5 x 170 = 2.1kW ~ 3 hp If the battery difference is 2 kg as south posted then the power (gain) to weight of this BER system is ~ 4.5 lb / 3 hp = 1.5 lb/hp When the car is about 8.8 lb/hp this is an awfully impressive ration. Sure it is only 3 hp but the weight "penalty" is absolutely meaningless. Even if the alternator is drawing 50% of its rated load it still offers a phenomenal power to weight ratio. Technically there may be other weight penalties other than just the batter but I doubt they are significant enough to change this argument. Finally can anyone say what TIS says?? It seems there still is not certainty about this system in the US. |
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