Chris Harris Drives M3 GTS vs Porsche GT3 RS 4.0 and C63 Black Series

[Alext]

Congrats on the C63 Black Roman! My partner and I have been thinking about a C63 coupe but in Australia they are $250k+ which is a massive $100k premium over a standard coupe!

[sales@ESSTuning]

Originally Posted by Alext

Congrats on the C63 Black Roman! My partner and I have been thinking about a C63 coupe but in Australia they are $250k+ which is a massive $100k premium over a standard coupe!

Ouch

[sales@ESSTuning]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Thanks for the feedback!

Love your black series, amazing! Is it your personal car?

I'm looking to replace my car with the 2012 c63 p31 (non black) next year. My main concern was the mct

It is a company car we currently share. We are going to be supercharging it soon My other "daily driver" is a 2011 supercharged E92 M3. The tranny in the Merc is not bad at all. It was one thing I was afraid I was not going to like but was impressed with after driving.

[Black Gold]

Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

It is a company car we currently share. We are going to be supercharging it soon My other "daily driver" is a 2011 supercharged E92 M3. The tranny in the Merc is not bad at all. It was one thing I was afraid I was not going to like but was impressed with after driving.

That's awesome!

Are you going to be offering tuning options as well? (for non sc c63s?)

I'm guessing it's going to be a posi displacement sc... the torque is going to be insane!!

[Modena NYC]

i stopped watching. while i like his commentary and appreciate his POV, he is not a professional driver so lap times seem a bit arbitrary. Additionally, its apparent he loves his RS. I would too. its basically a RS commercial.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by DARK_M3

Agreed!!!!

I really love that GTS though... just something about it.

1. GTS
2. 4.0
3. BS

In that order for me!

I got a different order, but it is all personal opinion. I would be more than happy with any of them.

1. 4.0
2. BS
3. GTS

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

It is a company car we currently share. We are going to be supercharging it soon My other "daily driver" is a 2011 supercharged E92 M3. The tranny in the Merc is not bad at all. It was one thing I was afraid I was not going to like but was impressed with after driving.

Nice BS.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Lol, it was .1 second slower than the gts. Essentially the merc and BMW posted identical times. The gt3 was the only one that stood out in terms of track times.

That's my point. On this track, it's still slower even if it it's just .1 second. From the comments here, most agree that BMW probably did the least amount of work so that is why I expected the C63 Black Series to place at least second if not first and the GTS in third with all that power and obvious tweaks on top of the regular C63. I haven't looked at other lap times comparing the GTS and C63BS but if other times show that the Mercedes is faster than I take back what I said about not being tweaked and more refined than the BMW.

[luckistryke]

BS for me baby... Here's why. GTS not available in the states. 4.0 was sold-out before it was announce. Wooohooo, let the tire shredding begin. LoL

[wisesoul]

Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

Much better than the old system. Close to DCT but still a bit less responsive.

I thought that the BS had a Dual Clutch from the SLS

[Kayani_1]

All 3 are great cars.

But it was funny he criticized M3 GTS for not having a proper cubby hole in armrest yet the GT3 RS has those little cheap red flaps for door handles and he did not mention anything. I think that might be cause he is a bit bias since he owns the GT3 RS.

Out of the 3 the MB looks the business except for those midsize family sedan like taillights in the rear and Porsche to me looks the ugly duckling of the group.

I love the M3 GTS 4.4 liter screaming sound it is just amazing and the fire orange shade looks great.

The Porsche is the fastest track machine due to the best power to weight ratio. One has to give credit to Porsche engineers on designing a great track machine.

Out of the 3 I would still take the M3 GTS even though I agree it should not be over 100K price wise. The Porsche is just too ugly for me.