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12-24-2007, 02:21 AM | #23 | |
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I read long ago that BMW explicitly stated that they were attempting to globalize cars meaning minimize design differences across markets. They will always exist, simply things like license plate width and more complex ones like emissions. Nonetheless the cars are becoming more and more alike. I also read that BMW is working toward more simultaneous global car launches (MT or C&D, I think). BMWs seemingly euro-centric approach is clearly not driven enough by a simple evaluation of where their cars sell. To some extent they manufacture here what sells substantially better here, but for pride and location of team, M must remain euro-centric I guess. Also note Scott never said anything about "DCT" nor "M-DCT" explicitly. He said the "new" transmission, then interpret as you like. He did add it had an automatic mode though. |
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12-25-2007, 08:12 AM | #26 | |
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12-25-2007, 08:33 AM | #27 |
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Love the teaser, nice looking convertible... but the next M3 is for me not the wife.. so no convertible.
I would be happy with a date when the price will be released... never mind the price. I still say it's being held up by the number crunchers. Crash testing, adding marker lights... all that adds no unexpected cost. Emissions may add some additional costs but some countries that the M3 is already released in have strict requirements. No other reason than concern about profit vs market share. |
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12-25-2007, 09:01 AM | #28 |
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bmw has smart financial advisors that understand market fluctuations. there can only be so many courses of action. it should not take this long. bmw is jacked up.
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12-25-2007, 11:29 AM | #29 |
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Hey, I wouldn't be surprised if BMW came up with some BMW-sounding jargon to try to differentiate from other DCT units that are on the market that pretty much operate in the same way.
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12-25-2007, 11:35 AM | #30 | |
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My other point is that BMW doesn't really care at this point since they can afford not to care; currently, there is no true competitor to this product that is on sale in the US market and they will not lose market share in the US because of the delay. (A few pissed-off guys on this forum will not change public opinion). That doesn't mean things will stay that way forever though. Having said all this, the issue might have nothing to do with additional development for the US market, which is what I speculated in my initial response to Scott. I really have a hard time believing BMW would not be able to pull that off. It might be related to production ramp up issues instead for instance. |
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12-25-2007, 12:47 PM | #31 |
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If you look at worldwide products like games consoles etc initial demand is far greater than can be met so staged worldwide releases help meet inital demand. why build 20 factories when only 10 will be needed long term to meet demand.
My local UK dealer says he got M3 coupe allocation last week for next year and it's not enough to meet the names on his list so demand is very high while supply is short in europe. I expect that's the problem with USA supply, BMW must meet euro demand first then worldwide is a small % and easy to meet, so in the meantime they are stocking up for US supply. In the UK we hardly make anything now so we get used to getting products 6 months after america/asia |
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12-25-2007, 12:56 PM | #32 | |
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12-26-2007, 06:05 AM | #33 |
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hi all, the waiting time for a new car order in the UK is about 5/6 months at the moment and I imagine it's the same across Europe. Demand is still very high so I guess they're focusing production on meeting demand here. As for the non price issue for north America, I guess the euro/dollar issue isn't helping bmw north America to fix a price that would aceptable to US consumers?
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12-26-2007, 07:49 AM | #34 |
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That's been debated here and the finance folks are of the opinion that BMW would have hedged so the currency issues should not have a significant impact for some time.
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