Next Gen F30 M3 To Be Based on N55 Engine

southlight · 09-02-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by swamp2

That is why we need the bore and cylinder spacing for the E46 M3 and the N55. South??

Sure, here you go:

N55
Bore: 84mm
Cylinder spacing: 91mm

S54
Bore: 87mm
Cylinder spacing: 91mm

Best regards,
south

chris719 · 09-03-2010, 12:43 AM

This is why a V6 is so common, I6 have more packaging issues because greater bore means an already long engine will be even longer. Purists may not like the idea but a V6 M3 might be able to locate the engine's weight closer to the middle of the car.

swamp2 · 09-03-2010, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

Sure, here you go:

N55
Bore: 84mm
Cylinder spacing: 91mm

S54
Bore: 87mm
Cylinder spacing: 91mm

Best regards,
south

Very odd, that means the maximum displacement of the new M3 (based on the accuracy of the prior information that the E46 M3 cylinder wall thickness between cylinders could not get any smaller) is also 3.245l. That really does not seem like enough for the power we are hearing about.

mkoesel · 09-03-2010, 05:44 AM

Swamp2, I think they are counting on being able to advance turbo tech rather quickly. I think what we've seen so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

Deniz1210 · 09-03-2010, 08:02 AM

I hope the next M3 has a 2.5 liter 455 hp engine in a 3000 lb car that does 0-60 in 3 seconds. Then I want to see what all of you says about the 2 ton V8 290 torque E9X lol.

mkoesel · 09-03-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deniz1210

I hope the next M3 has a 2.5 liter 455 hp engine in a 3000 lb car that does 0-60 in 3 seconds. Then I want to see what all of you says about the 2 ton V8 290 torque E9X lol.

Yeah. I hope the next M3 is faster than a Bugatti Veyron Driving off the end of the Space Shuttle.

That'll show you punks! Glad I bought the 335i instead!

Richbot · 09-03-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Yeah. I hope the next M3 is faster than a Bugatti Veyron Driving off the end of the Space Shuttle.

That'll show you punks! Glad I bought the 335i instead!

rofl

I hope it runs on unicorn farts and the only thing that comes out of the exhaust is rainbows

All I care about is that it's as much fun as the E90. They almost screwed up and made the E90 less fun than the E46, the engine was the only thing that saved it IMO.

TailHappyM3 · 09-03-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Deniz1210

I hope the next M3 has a 2.5 liter 455 hp engine in a 3000 lb car that does 0-60 in 3 seconds. Then I want to see what all of you says about the 2 ton V8 290 torque E9X lol.

But yet this "V8 290 torque E9X lol" is still good enough to spank your 335, maybe because of the better delivery of that torque plus the 400+ hp. Now that's LOL.

All your posts on this topic here and on the E90 posts regarding the M3 make you sound bitter and immature for some reason. Your ex-gf's new boyfriend owns a M3 or something? It's o.k. buddy, there's always someone out there with a better toy, just be satisfied with what you have and be happy.

Oh, BTW, the 335d has 425lbs ft of tq and 0-60 of ~ 6 sec so your point is nothing short of grasping at straws. Go learn how tq is delivered on this M3 vs other cars...tons of good info about this on these boards.

swamp2 · 09-03-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

Swamp2, I think they are counting on being able to advance turbo tech rather quickly. I think what we've seen so far is just the tip of the iceberg.

Must be, at 3 or 3.2 l the turbo system is going to have to be pretty special to BOTH have minimal lag and high peak hp.

duk · 09-03-2010, 02:31 PM

AT LEAST 3.2 LITERS PLS! OR MAKE IT 3.4 LITERS! 8k redline at least!!

Serious · 09-03-2010, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Deniz1210

Then I want to see what all of you says about the 2 ton V8 290 torque E9X lol.

as opposed to the 2 ton I6T 300 torque E9X lol?

see that's the problem with mocking an m3 when you drive an 335i... no matter what you argue your car is always inferior.

ssabripo · 09-03-2010, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Deniz1210

I hope the next M3 has a 2.5 liter 455 hp engine in a 3000 lb car that does 0-60 in 3 seconds. Then I want to see what all of you says about the 2 ton V8 290 torque E9X lol.

where do these clowns come from? another keyboard warrior trying to make himself feel better on the internet.

SHOCKING!

GhostyM · 09-03-2010, 03:25 PM

Deniz sounds like one of those young Eastern European boys that bought a salvage title 335i and now brags, little do we know, his car probably hops when he locks his steering wheel or some shit.

lol.

Serious · 09-03-2010, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipped B6

Deniz sounds like one of those young Eastern European boys that bought a salvage title 335i and now brags, little do we know, his car probably hops when he locks his steering wheel or some shit.

lol.

well he does say he has a 2011, would be pretty difficult to find a salvage title 2011.

Im guess it's his dads car.

warzilla · 09-03-2010, 08:09 PM

To learn the secret of Deniz1210's M3 envy, just look up his first post. I linked it before but the moderator took down my post. Probably will do it again with this post, who knows.

All i know, every post by Deniz1210 is a cover of his deep insecurity of buying the 335 over the M3.

swamp2 · 09-04-2010, 12:06 AM

Let's get back on topic to the N55 variant for the new M3.

guarnibl · 09-04-2010, 09:55 AM

I'm interested to see what kind of engine setup they go with as well. They've got a lot more competition now than they did when they first released the M3. I think people are also too quick to stick the GT-R in the same category as the M3, when the GT-R is actually more like $95k because of the required maintenance.

For $58k, the M3 seems like a great deal -- it's only going to get better from the increased competition. Very exciting.

jam0321 · 09-04-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FruitCake

there's no replacement for displacement

except for Forced Induction

crackberry · 09-06-2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GnokGnik

I am taking down names of people who say they are not going to buy the next M3. I am glad, there will be less M3 owners cluttering the streets and more enthusiasts will be able to enjoy the ///M3 with some exclusivity. Maybe you guys need to go to Audi, I hear that is were all the cocks are

Stand by for the boycotters thread.

i just test drove the m3 e90 at alhambra. the driver only let me drive for 5 minutes in a 35mph zone. i obviously did not test drive the car enough, but i will for sure hold off for the f3x. imo, there is no point in spending 70-80 grand for a car that will be outdated in 1-2 yrs. soooo, plz put me down the a list of 100% going to buy the new f3x series.

crackberry · 09-09-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Azorean

you sound bitter and immature for some reason. Your ex-gf's new boyfriend owns a M3 or something?

you just made my day

FStop7 · 09-09-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

But before the E9x M3 there was no high revving V8 anywhere south of an F car either.

shiggy · 09-09-2010, 10:50 AM

I dont care what BMW puts under the hood of the next gen M3.....because I know it will be better and faster than the current....I dont think BMW will screw this up...look at the track record!!!!...sheeshk!...have faith!

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