Accidental redline during break-in

M3SQRD · 11-17-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by username11

I accidentally redlined mine about 300 times during the break in period.

Wow, you must have some really bad luck

FLOSS M · 11-17-2011, 10:49 AM

Get the "4 Sale" sign out! - joking, it will be fine

Bmw M3 Guy · 11-17-2011, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by username11

I accidentally redlined mine about 300 times during the break in period.

LOL!

eisenb11 · 11-17-2011, 12:39 PM

I'm keeping my in D until I get the 1200 mile service.

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Originally Posted by username11

I accidentally redlined mine about 300 times during the break in period.

And that's why I bought new and not used... lol

mdosu · 11-17-2011, 12:41 PM

long story short, the incident has been logged in your car's computer and a full detailed report has been submitted to BMWNA, by the time you finish reading this your warranty will be void. Expect a letter from them by Monday.

Just messing with you on the latter half, but your car's computer would have recorded this for audit in case BMW needs to follow through on a major warranty claim.

Mike V8 · 11-17-2011, 12:46 PM

No, you're screwed. Might as well get a new one!
Lol as others have said, you'll be fine!

Bmw M3 Guy · 11-17-2011, 01:02 PM

It was decelerating, Not like you were WOT at redline. It's actually good to softly take it up there and do a deceleration to help seat the rings. Totally fine!

SROC3 · 11-17-2011, 01:06 PM

the car should be fine......from the outside. Inside the engine is a guaranteed total mess. Solution: send it over to me in Cali and I'll babysit it back to health

Hey man, that's what forum friends are for right? It's ok.....no need to thank me....no need to thank me..

karussell · 11-17-2011, 01:11 PM

i think OP didn't know the car shifts down for you when slowing down and right after it already downshifted for him, he hit the down paddle. since DCT knows next shift down would not cause engine rpm to be higher than redline it allowed the downshift. End result is an unintentional downshift 2 gears lower instead of 1. given the type of speed he was going, it could easily rev up to near redline, not over it.

still, no problems regardless. in all honesty I think the break in period exists only to ensure the various components of the car aren't shocked increasing the likelihood of premature failure meaning it saves the manufacturer money and you time wasted at the dealership. The factory rep said that a certain percentage of production engines are tested for quality control which means they have to rev them to redline multiple times. Running in engines even modern ones involve scoring the cylinder walls with the pistons. I'm a firm believer in breaking in an engine the way you intend to drive it normally. Since this particular engine is inside a sports car, guess where that rev range involves. Of all the guidelines BMW has on break in, I think the most important is preventing driveline shock. you need to break everything in, not just the engine. The brakes need to be bedded in properly. The differential also has to wear in. The engine should not be revved high until the oil temp is nominal. No stomping on any pedal, no speed shifting, everything smooth. Actually smooth is fastest anyways so there should never be a reason to be abrupt with any vehicle controls.

Templar · 11-17-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by karussell

i think OP didn't know the car shifts down for you when slowing down and right after it already downshifted for him, he hit the down paddle. since DCT knows next shift down would not cause engine rpm to be higher than redline it allowed the downshift. End result is an unintentional downshift 2 gears lower instead of 1. given the type of speed he was going, it could easily rev up to near redline, not over it.

still, no problems regardless. in all honesty I think the break in period exists only to ensure the various components of the car aren't shocked increasing the likelihood of premature failure meaning it saves the manufacturer money and you time wasted at the dealership. The factory rep said that a certain percentage of production engines are tested for quality control which means they have to rev them to redline multiple times. Running in engines even modern ones involve scoring the cylinder walls with the pistons. I'm a firm believer in breaking in an engine the way you intend to drive it normally. Since this particular engine is inside a sports car, guess where that rev range involves. Of all the guidelines BMW has on break in, I think the most important is preventing driveline shock. you need to break everything in, not just the engine. The brakes need to be bedded in properly. The differential also has to wear in. The engine should not be revved high until the oil temp is nominal. No stomping on any pedal, no speed shifting, everything smooth. Actually smooth is fastest anyways so there should never be a reason to be abrupt with any vehicle controls.

Makes more sense... He would have had to downshift manually in order to hit redline, although he didn't mention it (probably because he didn't realize it).

STooK · 11-17-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

DCT Money Shift!

i redlined plenty of times before break in..

tlp · 11-17-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mmm def

they actually redline it at the factory before it leaves the plant for testing.

...any they usually redline it around the shipyards as well.

Your fine

Quote:

Originally Posted by username11

I accidentally redlined mine about 300 times during the break in period.

Exactly why I choose to buy a new car this time around.

FVM3 · 11-17-2011, 02:17 PM

thats ok. Imagine how people test drive the m3s before they even buy it. I believe that most of them redline it

Jblack4083 · 11-17-2011, 02:19 PM

BMW will be at your house within 24 hours to reposess your car due to your carelessness.

J/p

I dont think it will kill your car if you did it once. Now doing it everyday throughout break in might be another problem...

needspeed · 11-17-2011, 02:58 PM

When I bought my 08 I did not follow the break-in at all, drove it as I would drive it in real life. Put 30K on it in two years with no issues and no use of oil between changes.

I think the break in is for newbies who are not used to having a fast car to help them learn about it before they put it into a tree the first week they get one

........Steve

Totti · 11-17-2011, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

DCT Money Shift!

1

GIdriver · 11-17-2011, 07:40 PM

You should trade it for a 335i. Those can be redlined during break in-period without a problem.

Just joking. No problem at all.

Voltigeur · 11-17-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

If the car is fully warmed up (ie, oil temp needle in the middle), then you should be fine...

Yes, that's the lesson: more important for longevity of the engine to warm up the fluids etc.

haze gray · 11-17-2011, 08:32 PM

Relax, it's a pretty tough car.

Bubbles · 11-17-2011, 08:52 PM

You are ok.no worries

m3keash · 11-17-2011, 09:08 PM

I did it only 7 times during breakin. Still runs great.

BeamingE39 · 11-18-2011, 01:03 AM

To clear things up. I was slowing down in 4th. Downshifted to what I thought was third but I was actually in either 1st. Pushed the gas, and in third it takes quite a while to hit 5.5k revs but in 1st its really quick. Thinking I was in 3rd because I've never driven DCT before, I wasn't expecting to shift until I see yellow lights as the car is approaching redline.

The car was driven for about an hour prior to the incident so the fluids were all warm. Only time will tell if my s65 will last as long as the ones that were babied. Fingers crossed

11-17-2011, 10:49 AM	#24
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11-17-2011, 12:41 PM	#27
mdosu Banned 314 Rep 8,496 Posts Drives: Double Vanos'd Civic-M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (6)	long story short, the incident has been logged in your car's computer and a full detailed report has been submitted to BMWNA, by the time you finish reading this your warranty will be void. Expect a letter from them by Monday. Just messing with you on the latter half, but your car's computer would have recorded this for audit in case BMW needs to follow through on a major warranty claim.
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11-17-2011, 12:46 PM	#28
Mike V8 First Lieutenant 24 Rep 398 Posts Drives: '09 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: So. Cal. iTrader: (0)	No, you're screwed. Might as well get a new one! Lol as others have said, you'll be fine! __________________ "...it's not about the money and not about the brand of the car, it's about handling,performance and passion......And that, no other car has all together like an M3........when you talk about the most complete car the M is invincible." --Tony Kanaan.
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11-17-2011, 01:11 PM	#31
karussell Lieutenant Colonel 353 Rep 1,749 Posts Drives: 4 wheels Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NorCal iTrader: (1)	i think OP didn't know the car shifts down for you when slowing down and right after it already downshifted for him, he hit the down paddle. since DCT knows next shift down would not cause engine rpm to be higher than redline it allowed the downshift. End result is an unintentional downshift 2 gears lower instead of 1. given the type of speed he was going, it could easily rev up to near redline, not over it. still, no problems regardless. in all honesty I think the break in period exists only to ensure the various components of the car aren't shocked increasing the likelihood of premature failure meaning it saves the manufacturer money and you time wasted at the dealership. The factory rep said that a certain percentage of production engines are tested for quality control which means they have to rev them to redline multiple times. Running in engines even modern ones involve scoring the cylinder walls with the pistons. I'm a firm believer in breaking in an engine the way you intend to drive it normally. Since this particular engine is inside a sports car, guess where that rev range involves. Of all the guidelines BMW has on break in, I think the most important is preventing driveline shock. you need to break everything in, not just the engine. The brakes need to be bedded in properly. The differential also has to wear in. The engine should not be revved high until the oil temp is nominal. No stomping on any pedal, no speed shifting, everything smooth. Actually smooth is fastest anyways so there should never be a reason to be abrupt with any vehicle controls. __________________ "It gave you amazing satisfaction, but anyone who says he loved it is either a liar or he wasn't going fast enough." - Jackie Stewart on racing at the Nurburgring
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Jblack4083 Captain 116 Rep 888 Posts Drives: E46 ///M3 JB/CB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Queens, NYC iTrader: (0)	BMW will be at your house within 24 hours to reposess your car due to your carelessness. J/p I dont think it will kill your car if you did it once. Now doing it everyday throughout break in might be another problem...
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11-17-2011, 02:58 PM	#37
needspeed First Lieutenant 10 Rep 319 Posts Drives: 10 X5 M/05 F430/12 CTS-V Coupe Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Middle of nowhere IOWA iTrader: (0)	When I bought my 08 I did not follow the break-in at all, drove it as I would drive it in real life. Put 30K on it in two years with no issues and no use of oil between changes. I think the break in is for newbies who are not used to having a fast car to help them learn about it before they put it into a tree the first week they get one ........Steve __________________ 10 BMW X5 M Silverstone w/Black on Black interior - Loaded 12 CTS-V Coupe Thunder Gray - Loaded 13 Ford GT500 (650HP Priceless!!!!) as soon as can be delivered 05 F430 F1 - Giallo 08 BMW M3 Interlagos Blue Metallic - DCT (Traded)
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GIdriver Major 68 Rep 1,359 Posts Drives: 2014 E63 AMG-S Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Somewhere in Time iTrader: (0)	You should trade it for a 335i. Those can be redlined during break in-period without a problem. Just joking. No problem at all.
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11-17-2011, 08:32 PM	#41
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11-18-2011, 01:03 AM	#44
BeamingE39 Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 212 Posts Drives: slower than I'd like Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	To clear things up. I was slowing down in 4th. Downshifted to what I thought was third but I was actually in either 1st. Pushed the gas, and in third it takes quite a while to hit 5.5k revs but in 1st its really quick. Thinking I was in 3rd because I've never driven DCT before, I wasn't expecting to shift until I see yellow lights as the car is approaching redline. The car was driven for about an hour prior to the incident so the fluids were all warm. Only time will tell if my s65 will last as long as the ones that were babied. Fingers crossed
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