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06-29-2013, 11:20 PM | #1 |
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New M3 for me, I have owned Porsches before...
I recently bought a mineral white competition package E92 M3
Compared to a 2009 Porsche Carrera 4S I recently owned, I can say: - Performancewise the M3 is 95% of the Porsche - The interior quality I prefer the M3 -Steering I prefer the M3 - Handling the M3 is better balanced - Engine sound the M3 is much better -PDK buttons on the Porsche steering wheel are not good, I prefer much more the paddles of the M3 If you drive a modern Porsche, many people give you bad looks... Generally speaking, the M3 is superb !! |
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A lot go from m3 to P cars and you do it in the other way. Congrats. Im amazed that you think the m3 interior quality is better. To me 997 got more leather wrapped in the interior and from stitches to other else, it does look good to me.
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06-29-2013, 11:49 PM | #4 |
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Porsche is perfect if:
- It's a 1998 model or older 911 - It is a GT3 Modern Porsches have almost totally lost their soul... My PDK tranny was broken after 5k miles and replaced under warranty, never I used launch control... Porsche differentials are worser than e92 m3 diffs... If E92 M3 500 lbs. Lighter, it would be top perfect ! |
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06-30-2013, 03:38 AM | #5 |
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I was on the same boat. I've owned many porsches and honestly i love porsches better, my 996 S Cab was honestly one of the best drivers cars to me. My Lime Rock Edition M3 maybe quicker but i like the porsche better. Bmw Needs to step it up & produce cars that weigh much less then the current E92 M3.
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06-30-2013, 06:25 AM | #7 |
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The rest is subjective and I won't argue with you, but steering, really? Are you sure that you have actual human hands? Porsche has BMW completely destroyed in steering feel. And I should know, I switch back and forth between an M3 and 997, 996 or 993 daily. Last edited by RudyP; 06-30-2013 at 06:40 AM.. |
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06-30-2013, 06:30 AM | #8 |
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I have been saying that Porsche cars have looked like crap for 10+ years. Only Porsche that looks good in my eyes is the Porsche Carrera GT. Any other P car = Fail. If I want looks and performance I would go Gallardo or a modified ZR1. I would never own a Porsche and won't even bat an eye looking at one, unless it's a Carrera GT.
Good to hear your review and you are back in a bmw..
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Coming from 2 997's I can tell you that the 911 is far more engaging and enjoyable to drive. Lighter on its feet, better brakes, and overall more enjoyable than the heavier m3. I owned a 997.2s with pdk and sport suspension at the same time I had my m3 and everytime I would get out of the Porsche and into the m3 id feel like I was driving an SUV.
I agree with the op on interior quality, technology, and dct is on another level than the Porsche but that's about it. Last edited by KKM3; 06-30-2013 at 12:33 PM.. |
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06-30-2013, 06:04 PM | #15 |
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Whaaattttt??? I test drove a 2007 Carrera S and although I'm in an m3 today, I dream of the day I will own a Porsche. The driving experience of the Carrera S I drove was on another level.
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07-01-2013, 11:58 AM | #16 | |
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But E92 M3 steering is very nice ! |
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I drove 997.2 C4S and 996 GT3 on track -- C4S not a track car... GT3 perfect for the track, but too much compromisos for the road... Modern 911's like Carrera S or Carrera 4S are slightly better than E92 M3, but not lots better... GT3 is perfect and unique, incredible at the track, but too many compromisos for road use... I had a 1990 964 Carrera 4S -- Incredible quality the interior, hand made Also had a 2009 Carrera 4S -- The E92 M3 I prefer its interior And my last Porsche was a 996 GT3 -- I had to change the seats for Recaro buckets, as I was sliding too much inside... Quote:
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I went to PSDS (Porsche Sport Driving School) in Alabama for 2 different driving courses -- The 997.2 Carrera S felt nice on the track, but not encouraging... I felt the Cayman S was a much better car, but underpowered for marketing purposes to protect sales of the 911... Also drove a Boxster Spyder, very capable with PDK ! Generally speaking 911 is better than M3, no doubt about that. But modern 911's are less engaging to drive, soul less... If I can have an M3 and a GT3 on my garage, yes !!!!!!! But an M3 and a normal 911, no....... |
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I've been considering selling my '11 GT3 w/ less than 4K miles for a E92 M3 w/ Comp pkg, which is why I registered here. Sometimes I feel that the GT3 is too focused to drive on the street with any regularity. Great on backroads but as a DD I've got to think that the M3 would be better.
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07-01-2013, 04:46 PM | #22 | |
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True. Porsches are spendy to buy, insure, use and maintain. Free service with BMW is appealing for sure.
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