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The fallacy, in my opinion, is equating reliability to build quality. Reliability is often a consequence of design simplicity, not superiority. It is likely that a Honda Civic will outlast an M3, yet the quality of the materials in the M3 blows it away.
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12-07-2007, 01:11 AM | #72 | |
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the civic/M3 analogy in the previous post also supports this point. considering that a civic is a lot less complex than an m3 in overall parts and design, it is reasonable to assume that Honda would have to make less effort at their plant to produce civics without defects than BMW would have to make to ensure that M3s are produced without defects. this could potentially mean that the Honda plant has a higher quality rating than the BMW regensburg plant because it has less defects per each 100 vehicles. but you'd be an idiot to think that means a civic is of better quality and design than an M3 (i'm not talking about reliability here). maybe i went too far with my ford comment in the OP, maybe not. sorry if i offended you with that one. i'm still going to go out on a limb here and say that I think BMWs are better than Fords and that Fords are not very well made cars (but i've never driven or even seen a GT-P in person, so its totally subjective here). I know that this is very generalized statement and could be considered car racism. Still, my personal experience with three Ford cars has lead me to believe otherwise. the two BMWs i've owned, on the otherhand, have been outstanding. maybe its just luck or my experience, but thats about all i have to go on. its just my opinion and my .2 cents. cheers |
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No offense taken. I'm just tired of everybody still dogging on American cars. I know their quality was really bad in the 80s and throughout most of the 90s but GM and Ford have really changed. I am buying an M3 here in a few months because I love the car, but I still have the most respect for American sports cars. I still believe the Corvette is the best performance car made for the money, and if all my friends didn't already own one, I'd probably be getting that instead of the M3.
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12-07-2007, 09:50 PM | #74 | |
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Hey BMW M Mexico, i think a M3 avatar is more appropriate than a C63 lol, especially considering you own a E92 M3 now!
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Hahahaha!!! I hear you. When I get a really good unique pic of my M3, I will post it instead. I do also own a very special C55 AMG through. The pic is actually a Brabus Bullit, a V12 Twin Turbo C class, not a C63!!
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$5 hard earned bucks that it will not be offered in US.
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Hahahaha!! OK, in a few days!!! Let me be different for at least a few!!!
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I wonder if BMW has possible canned the "CSL" cars.... I mean BMW also said they were going to make M6 CSL but now they have already started testing the next gen 6er and there's no sight of an M6 CSL. Maybe its not profitable?
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