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      06-23-2010, 06:24 PM   #133
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hey guys, with the lux not working on the 2010's, does that mean they won't work on 2011's as well? What are my options beside HID angel eyes?
anyone? Does the lux set work on 2011's?
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What would be the major difference between the LUX kit vs. the AiB kit?

Light intensity?

Light distribution?

Heat, or lack thereof?
Intensity and heat are equal between the AiB and LUX, the only difference would be light distribution as LUX faces forward and AiB uses the reflector housing to evenly distribute the light.

Being the brightest (LED, incandescent or HID) means nothing if the light cannot be directly properly.
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      06-23-2010, 08:06 PM   #135
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Intensity and heat are equal between the AiB and LUX, the only difference would be light distribution as LUX faces forward and AiB uses the reflector housing to evenly distribute the light.

Being the brightest (LED, incandescent or HID) means nothing if the light cannot be directly properly.
Tom, I've always loved the AiB's and have read good things for the most part.

What made me question their reliability is a thread from a few days ago from an unhappy customer who made it his mission in life to slam the lights.

A few others chimed in that their AiB's just stopped working while in traffic.

Need me some non-yellow angel eyes asap
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kaykay let me know what you decide. I want to order a set as well asap. I am deciding between the AIB and LUX as well. I don't know if the LUX even works for our cars though since they don't work for the 2010's (I am trying to get someone to confirm this though).
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kaykay let me know what you decide. I want to order a set as well asap. I am deciding between the AIB and LUX as well. I don't know if the LUX even works for our cars though since they don't work for the 2010's (I am trying to get someone to confirm this though).
I'm not sure why LUX wouldn't be compatible with the newer models, but AiB definitely will.

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Tom, I've always loved the AiB's and have read good things for the most part.

What made me question their reliability is a thread from a few days ago from an unhappy customer who made it his mission in life to slam the lights.

A few others chimed in that their AiB's just stopped working while in traffic.

Need me some non-yellow angel eyes asap
Unfortunately, we still haven't heard from that customer - I've asked him twice for him to return the kit if not 100% satisfied, with no response.

We had our own share of issues last summer last year when some DriverPacks were not standing up to summer heat. As a solution, revised (Heavy Duty) DriverPacks were sent to all AiB users whether they were experiencing issues or not as an added precaution - even taking the extra step and covering shipping.

Marc is good people and I wish him the best. We've seen a lot of other companies come and go on the forums, products are only as good as the companies backing them up.
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Intensity and heat are equal between the AiB and LUX, the only difference would be light distribution as LUX faces forward and AiB uses the reflector housing to evenly distribute the light.

Being the brightest (LED, incandescent or HID) means nothing if the light cannot be directly properly.
Tom - Please do NOT try to make assumptions about my lighting kits........ your are not correct in saying that the "light distribution as LUX faces forward" I have spend countless hours designing these kits to make 100% use of the reflector inside the headlight.

I'll even sit down and make a lighting diagram using the beam pattern of the LED, and how it uses the reflector to concentrate as much light as possible into the outer rings.
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anyone? Does the lux set work on 2011's?
Unfortunately I have not heard from anyone yet as to whether or not they will work. If you would like to try a set that would be great. If for some reason they do not work correctly there would be a full refund on the product of course.
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Tom - Please do NOT try to make assumptions about my lighting kits........ your are not correct in saying that the "light distribution as LUX faces forward" I have spend countless hours designing these kits to make 100% use of the reflector inside the headlight.

I'll even sit down and make a lighting diagram using the beam pattern of the LED, and how it uses the reflector to concentrate as much light as possible into the outer rings.
That would be great, thanks.
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      06-24-2010, 03:58 PM   #141
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kaykay let me know what you decide. I want to order a set as well asap. I am deciding between the AIB and LUX as well. I don't know if the LUX even works for our cars though since they don't work for the 2010's (I am trying to get someone to confirm this though).
99% going with AiB's, but they're not in stock until next week...
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i just got me a set of gp thunders 8.5k,

i dont want to mess wth extra harnesses connections and blah blah

it was great on my 335
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Boosted, are the GP Thunders simply a light-bulb replacement?

Would love to see some pics... Not sure what else goes into AiB's aside from a bulb... Just need some damn angel eyes already! Haha
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^--- AiB's are two connections each instead of one like a simple GP Thunder bulb. Install is about 10 minutes total, assuming you are good at putting the bulb in correctly (but that's the same even if you do a GP Thunder).
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Yes, they are.... I just went and picked up a pair of GP Thunders--went with the 7500k for hopefully more of a pure white light, less blue tint. I don't care about brighter, I just want to get rid of the yellow. A $14 solution to my problem. Gonna put those suckers in right now! Be back in 20 minutes...
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What's the difference between a GP Thunder kit and an AiB kit?

Obviously $250 but why go with the AiB's instead of a simple $30 lightbulb?

EAS, I need my AiB's PLEASE!!!!
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Yes, they are.... I just went and picked up a pair of GP Thunders--went with the 7500k for hopefully more of a pure white light, less blue tint. I don't care about brighter, I just want to get rid of the yellow. A $14 solution to my problem. Gonna put those suckers in right now! Be back in 20 minutes...
They won't be white anymore once you turn your headlights on voltage drop will get you.
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What's the difference between a GP Thunder kit and an AiB kit?

Obviously $250 but why go with the AiB's instead of a simple $30 lightbulb?

EAS, I need my AiB's PLEASE!!!!
They'll be in stock on Tuesday - drop on by, and we'll install them for you at no additional charge.

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The GP Thunders are a simple xenon bulb replacement for the oem DRLs. Most people will use a higher temp bulb like 7500-8500k to get a purer white light with slight blue tint, versus ugly yellow oem.

I personally don't "get" the whole angel eye mystique brightness thing. I mean, for brightness I turn on the damn headlights. But for daytime running lamps all you're looking for is a little accent around the grill. Better light distribution between the inner and outer ring is the only concession I would make towards getting the higher-end lights (Aib, LUX. etc), but not for the $$$!

I JUST finished putting in my GP Thunder 7500ks. They look GREAT! Very white color, cost me literally $14 and took 10 minutes to install. Now they do dim down with the main headlights come on, and the color could be a little "whiter"--in hindsight I would go with the 8500k--but this was just the simple solution I needed.
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They'll be in stock on Tuesday - drop on by, and we'll install them for you at no additional charge.

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Hey Tom, spoke with Brandon, he wasn't sure exactly when they were coming in. I'll shoot you both a PM on Tuesday, and hopefully come by Wednesday to get them installed.
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What would be the major difference between the LUX kit vs. the AiB kit?

Light intensity?

Light distribution?

Heat, or lack thereof?
Stay with your stock bulbs or some gp thunders....less issues, less headache, just in general just a better way to go.

Look at the amount of recalls and failures you see on the forums....its just chaos. You buy the car to drive and enjoy, with some mods like angel eyes, its a pity and you keep on having to change the stupid modules out.

If you really want white angel eyes, the OSS Design is the only legit design that covers all the issues every thread you see about even angel eyes all around.
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for 25 bux its a win win

i loved them on my 335

and i hate headaches so this is best.
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The GP Thunders are a simple xenon bulb replacement for the oem DRLs. Most people will use a higher temp bulb like 7500-8500k to get a purer white light with slight blue tint, versus ugly yellow oem.

I personally don't "get" the whole angel eye mystique brightness thing. I mean, for brightness I turn on the damn headlights. But for daytime running lamps all you're looking for is a little accent around the grill. Better light distribution between the inner and outer ring is the only concession I would make towards getting the higher-end lights (Aib, LUX. etc), but not for the $$$!

I JUST finished putting in my GP Thunder 7500ks. They look GREAT! Very white color, cost me literally $14 and took 10 minutes to install. Now they do dim down with the main headlights come on, and the color could be a little "whiter"--in hindsight I would go with the 8500k--but this was just the simple solution I needed.
I largely agree. Bulbs are a 80% (very rough number just IMHO) for the ugly yellow-ish stock angel eyes. And like you point out really cheap, fairly easy to install and keeps everything stock. I went with the same bulbs first for quite some months then added the Camaross kit to give them just a bit more brightness. Sure I'd like a bit more even illumination and a better ring design that has a wider viewing angle but both of those are quite tough problems to really solve fully. I guess that is the point all the way back to the OP - there is no "perfect" solution. Not everyone wants the same thing and even if the majority have very similar wants there is still no perfect solution.

BTW I also went 7500k and agree they could be bit more white when they dim but the 8500k are too blue and too ricey. 7500k for me was the best compromise.
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