2012 911 Carrera S as quick as 997 GT3 round the ring

blue2fire · 09-22-2011, 01:12 AM

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/21/2...s-ring-time-q/

Q4P · 09-22-2011, 01:35 AM

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http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/21/2...s-ring-time-q/

holy cow, that's awesome! and look at the beautiful interior when compared to the GT3, this is a fantastic porsche

michaelthepsycho · 09-22-2011, 02:05 AM

Lighter and with more engine weight towards the center. Porsche is realizing the horsepower protection plan isn't working. Mid-engined is the way to go and they're probably going to slowly move it forward each generation.

Echo M3 · 09-22-2011, 08:31 AM

That rear end is so beautiful

MisterSkiMask · 09-22-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelthepsycho

Lighter and with more engine weight towards the center. Porsche is realizing the horsepower protection plan isn't working. Mid-engined is the way to go and they're probably going to slowly move it forward each generation.

Can't get it much farther forward, its connected to the transaxle

pixelblue · 09-22-2011, 09:06 AM

Shorter transaxle?

immiketoo · 09-22-2011, 09:07 AM

One day my pretty...one day.

MisterSkiMask · 09-22-2011, 10:28 AM

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Shorter transaxle?

can't get much shorter behind the centerline of the axle, they may find a way to move accessories and other stuff forward of the axle

M3Bahn · 09-22-2011, 10:30 AM

Amazing!

Crimson92 · 09-22-2011, 11:37 AM

my next car

FStop7 · 09-22-2011, 01:48 PM

Can't wait

blue2fire · 09-22-2011, 03:50 PM

I initially thought it grew too much. I have to admit to grudging admiration at the advances made. The Carrera S is only one trim from the bottom, a road car in every sense. The GT3 will have to be much better, as it always is.

michaelthepsycho · 09-22-2011, 06:28 PM

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Can't get it much farther forward, its connected to the transaxle

They can flip it. Instead of front-to-back transaxle ->engine where the engine hangs behind the wheels; turn it into a real mid-engine. Obviously die-hard Porsche fans are going to bitch and moan for a while but whatever... Look at the relatively recent test on Cayman R vs GT3. It was so close! And the Cayman was undertyred while having less power.

FStop7 · 09-22-2011, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelthepsycho

They can flip it. Instead of front-to-back transaxle ->engine where the engine hangs behind the wheels; turn it into a real mid-engine. Obviously die-hard Porsche fans are going to bitch and moan for a while but whatever... Look at the relatively recent test on Cayman R vs GT3. It was so close! And the Cayman was undertyred while having less power.

Ouch, which test was that? I definitely want to read the article.

MisterSkiMask · 09-22-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelthepsycho

They can flip it. Instead of front-to-back transaxle ->engine where the engine hangs behind the wheels; turn it into a real mid-engine. Obviously die-hard Porsche fans are going to bitch and moan for a while but whatever... Look at the relatively recent test on Cayman R vs GT3. It was so close! And the Cayman was undertyred while having less power.

If it was mid engine then it would no longer be a 911. I have read that they are going to make (maybe still a rumor) mid engine 458 fighter slotted above the gt2 but below their halo car.

In that test the gt3 also had better tires (sport cups I believe), with equal rubber the gt3 would have had trouble...

Impervious · 09-22-2011, 07:41 PM

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Ouch, which test was that? I definitely want to read the article.

Last month's car&driver/road and track I believe is what he's referring too.

michaelthepsycho · 09-22-2011, 07:42 PM

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Ouch, which test was that? I definitely want to read the article.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...11_gt3-feature

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