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      11-08-2009, 08:39 PM   #45
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ADVAN RS

18x9.0 +24 offset
18x9.5 +45 offset
18x9.5 +35 offset
18x9.5 +25 offset
18x10 +20 offset

*My recommended track sizes are highlighted in bold text.
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You should be able to get that set delivered for ~$2.6k.
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I went to vivdracing's web site to look up Advan wheels, and it's like trying to find a needle in a haystack. For some reason, even after you input your car and model, it returns all different wheels sizes and bolt patterns anyway, and they do not list the Advan RS in 18x9 and 18x10 with the right bolt pattern. Does anybody else sell them? If so, what offsets do the RS and RZ wheels come in for 18x9 and 18x10? Thanks!
http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan...HL_BRND_CD=RSB

i recommend the 18x10 et20 square w 285 BFG R1's
or the 18x9.5 et25 square w 275 BFG R1 or Nitto NT01's

you will probably run spacers for better track-width measurements.
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Here are all the available sizes for the ADVAN RC wheels between 18x9 and 18x10 in a BMW fitment:

ADVAN RS

18x9.5 +25 offset
18x10 +20 offset

*My recommended track sizes are highlighted in bold text.
So is this your recommendation for staggered setup? I'm kicking the back-end out exiting turns on the track and am pretty sure I want staggered to help with that oversteer. 9.5 up front seems ... huge and I wonder about rubbing.
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I totaly agree with LMB on the Advan RS setup.

I am planning to get these wheels for the next season. I do not have rubbing with 18x9 wheels with 265/35 tires up front at offset 25mm. Several people here run 18x9.5 wheels up fronty without any issue. You have to get the offset right. I think the Advan RS offset of 25mm front is fine. You will not have any issue with that.
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If you wanted to run square 18 x 9.5's, the 25mm off-set will work on both axles?

I am just learning about these factors, so it is difficult to have confidence in the various calculators. Advice is appreciated.

Thanks.
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So is this your recommendation for staggered setup? I'm kicking the back-end out exiting turns on the track and am pretty sure I want staggered to help with that oversteer. 9.5 up front seems ... huge and I wonder about rubbing.
Yes, that is my recommendation for a staggered 18" track wheel setup.

Those 18" wheel sizes are just about perfect for the E9x M3's.

Tire Recommendations:

Front: 265/35/18, 275/35/18

Rear: 275/35/18, 285/35/18, 295/35/18

And don't worry about the 18x9.5 front, this car can accommodate 18x10" wheels on the front axle with the correct offsets. (not kidding)

BTW: BMW built in some very generous (wide) fenders on this M3. (as opposed to the previous E46 M3)
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If you wanted to run square 18 x 9.5's, the 25mm off-set will work on both axles?

I am just learning about these factors, so it is difficult to have confidence in the various calculators. Advice is appreciated.

Thanks.

That would also work, but you may want to use a 10mm spacer to widen your rear stance though...
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I'm kicking the back-end out exiting turns on the track and am pretty sure I want staggered to help with that oversteer. 9.5 up front seems ... huge and I wonder about rubbing.
18x9.5 F; 18x10 R

would be fine, and you can also go up to 18x10.5 in the rear, which is what I did.
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That would also work, but you may want to use a 10mm spacer to widen your rear stance though...
Thanks!
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Dale,

Here are all the available sizes for the ADVAN RC wheels between 18x9 and 18x10 in a BMW fitment:

ADVAN RS

18x9.0 +24 offset
18x9.5 +45 offset
18x9.5 +35 offset
18x9.5 +25 offset
18x10 +20 offset

ADVAN RZ wheels are only available in 1-series offset right now.
I like the 18x9, 24mm and 18x10, 20mm but I didn't see them on Vivid's site. I'll give them a call, but I need to get the money back I gave **********s back in August for the Forgestar wheels first. At least now I'm not in a hurry and can shop around for the best price.

Do the Advan wheels come with the correct center bore and bolt pattern (no dual hole sets). Do they have the STL test reports published? Are the wheels cast, pressure cast, semi forged, forged, flow formed, etc.? How much do they weigh?
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I like the 18x9, 24mm and 18x10, 20mm but I didn't see them on Vivid's site. I'll give them a call, but I need to get the money back I gave **********s back in August for the Forgestar wheels first. At least now I'm not in a hurry and can shop around for the best price.

Do the Advan wheels come with the correct center bore and bolt pattern (no dual hole sets). Do they have the STL test reports published? Are the wheels cast, pressure cast, semi forged, forged, flow formed, etc.? How much do they weigh?
Wow, lots of questions. Here is what i know about the Advan RS (and I am not an expert like LMB)

They are flow formed, the lightest available 18" wheels as of now.
The 18x9.5 and 18x10 surely have the correct 5x120 bolt pattern for the M3. Never seen the STL test, but the Advans are well known to racing circles and respected.
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I like the 18x9, 24mm and 18x10, 20mm but I didn't see them on Vivid's site. I'll give them a call, but I need to get the money back I gave **********s back in August for the Forgestar wheels first. At least now I'm not in a hurry and can shop around for the best price.

Do the Advan wheels come with the correct center bore and bolt pattern (no dual hole sets). Do they have the STL test reports published? Are the wheels cast, pressure cast, semi forged, forged, flow formed, etc.? How much do they weigh?
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Wow, lots of questions. Here is what i know about the Advan RS (and I am not an expert like LMB)

They are flow formed, the lightest available 18" wheels as of now.
The 18x9.5 and 18x10 surely have the correct 5x120 bolt pattern for the M3. Never seen the STL test, but the Advans are well known to racing circles and respected.
Okay,

I'll answer your questions since you guys actually seem interested in the quality of these wheels. (which I'd really like to see more guys do around here!)

The ADVAN wheels are built with the proper 5x120 BMW bolt pattern & 72.5mm bore.

They are made using the flow-formed casting technique. (I originally thought there were simply low-pressure cast, but I double checked my sources and they are indeed flow formed cast wheels)

The dealers of these wheels should be able to get you the weights depending on the size and offsets you choose.


In regards to your questions about wheel strength testing...

SPL is a testing laboratory here in the United States, that DOMESTIC wheel companies use to test there wheel products. (well...some of them do anyway lol)

There is no need for a SPL labs test report on the ADVAN RS wheels, as they are manufactured in Japan.

Why?

Because in Japan, every road wheel must meet both JWL and VIA standards to be be sold to the general public. PERIOD.

It's not a 'voluntary' testing system like we have here in the USA,...it's actually the law in Japan. (i.e.- you don't have a choice)

JWL & VIA testing standards are the most stringent in the world. (TUV is a close second)

I wish WE had such stringent testing organizations here in the United States, since our SAE wheel testing standards (performed at labs like SPL) are actually a joke by comparison.

If a wheel company is truly trying to build the best possible product for the consumer, they would seek out the most stringent wheel testing standards they could find.

And when they did, they would ADD a healthy margin of error (25-50%) on top of those minimum standards...just to make sure the product did not disappoint any potential customers once it was released to the public.

This is what every wheel brand based out of Japan does on a regular basis.

JWL testing requirements, simply won't allow a 1200lb (static load) radial fatigue test at 100,000 or 150,000 cycles...for a 3700 lb car like some companies.

JWL mandates a 1520-1580lb (static load) for a BMW car that is the size and weight of an E9x M3.

The best wheel manufacturers in the world, have already set the bar as far as comprehensive wheel testing is concerned.

They typically surpass the minimum testing parameters set by JWL and VIA.

They START their minimum radial fatigue testing parameters higher than where the American wheel companies finish.

Some of the bling wheel crap that is sold in this country is a complete embarrassment.

It is common to see JWL radial fatigue testing cycles that exceed 350,000 on the lower end, and 750,000 to 1,000,000 cycles on the high end. (for brands built IN Japan)

Try to find one American wheel company that would even bother doing that...

And they advertise their bling wheel products as a 'premium wheel brand' with 'exceptional quality' built to "the finest standards in the industry".

Give me a freaking break.

FYI: BBS & VOLK do at least 1 MILLION radial fatigue cycles on every wheel product they build.

That is just ONE of the reasons those 2 brands are considered the best in the business.
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