Proof of OE/Gintani dyno manipulation

BPMSport · 04-14-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

That's fucking awesome! I think 'xchosun1x' and 'Mike@Powerchip' should have some cake too...

I'm happy to purchase a cake for the dyno event... Any flavor suggestions?

rbk1115 · 04-14-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@Powerchip

I'm happy to purchase a cake for the dyno event... Any flavor suggestions?

Since there might be multiple people at this dyno event, you should go for the Bundlets. That way, you can get multiple flavors and people can have a choice after seeing the results of the dyno.

Personally, I like the carrot cake flavor, but they are all good. This place has great cakes.

I must give a shout out to my wife who suggested we try it a few years ago.

jmflukeiii · 04-14-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

I think Steve Dinan should do it.

AGREED! Their dyno procedures are rock solid; read his article about them. I guarantee 90% of dyno shops aren't putting in 10% of the effort they do to control the circumstances to the best of their ability to provide consistent, measurable results.

rbk1115 · 04-14-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

I think Steve Dinan should do it.

HAHA

Steve Dinan is a pretty cool guy. When he was here at BMW of San Diego, he answered some pretty heated questions from some of the 335i "Boost Junkies" concerning the prices of his parts. In the end, he made those fools look pretty ignorant.

jmflukeiii · 04-14-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by rbk1115

HAHA

Steve Dinan is a pretty cool guy. When he was here at BMW of San Diego, he answered some pretty heated questions from some of the 335i "Boost Junkies" concerning the prices of his parts. In the end, he made those fools look pretty ignorant.

I'm sure he did... silly 335 owners.

BPMSport · 04-14-2011, 08:04 PM

I'm in a 2010 335i loaner car right now and I absolutely love it. Gobs of torque.

It's so much better than the M3 as a daily driver. But on the highway the M3 is much faster on top.

Tuned sometimes it's a toss up - power wise..

Kyoshi71 · 04-14-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

I just wanted to chime-in quickly and mention how much I like cake.

This thread has turned into the Junior Prom.

Mike @ PC...I was kind of siding with you because of the whole stolen software thing but now after some of your posts and the unprofessionalism exhibited, I almost think your cut from the same shady thread that they are.

$0 of my $$$ would ever go to any of the 3 companies in conflict here.

Dinan FTW

BPMSport · 04-14-2011, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

This thread has turned into the Junior Prom.

Mike @ PC...I was kind of siding with you because of the whole stolen software thing but now after some of your posts and the unprofessionalism exhibited, I almost think your cut from the same shady thread that they are.

$0 of my $$$ would ever go to any of the 3 companies in conflict here.

Dinan FTW

This thread is not about me, it is about the dyno chart posted which has been proven to be pretty much mathematically impossible. I am just trying to verify those results in a fair unbiased manner.

It's completely wrong to say that I am from the same deck of cards. I am a serious BMW enthusiast and it doesn't matter to me which company prospers as long as everyone plays fair.

Thank you for your comments.

Mike

Draff1 · 04-14-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J08M3

Actually there is some potential benefit. He gets to find out if he has what's considered to be a safe tune as far as timing is concerned (since that is specified to be tested). He also gets to see if OE is giving him the "tune/power" they claim they have sold him.

But I have to agree with the comment towards professionalism. Mike, you started off very professional in this thread. I'm sure it's frustrating in your position but from an outside point of view (which I am, I don't care which company wins as I won't buy a tune) the stress is starting to pull you into argument mode with xchosun1x which doesn't cast you in a great light. I suggest being careful with how you treat him as his cooperation is you best chance to prove your point

+1 Well said. Clearly there is frustration on both sides and these forums (like e-mail) tend to encourage people to write stuff they would never say in person. In most companies there exists a 3 e-mail rule then it's time to pick up the phone. I think you guys need to step away from the computer and get on the phone. I'll bet you can see this eye to eye and move on.

brizzom · 04-15-2011, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by m3heaven

In the beginning of this whole ordeal I was leaning towards PC's side in that they were offering such a great opportunity for the OP and the M3post community to find out the truth.

However, after reading Mike's most recent posts it makes me not want to do any business with both vendors at all. Most people care about customer service more than the quality or price of the product the majority of the time. Both companies should go back to the drawing board and focus on improving their customer service...

Mike regardless of what tune the OP has right now he was in fact one of your customers before...maybe you should treat him like one.

x 784678684673

persian54 · 04-18-2011, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@Powerchip

I'm happy to purchase a cake for the dyno event... Any flavor suggestions?

I'm down.. I can pick up too since I only live 5 minutes from one

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Originally Posted by rbk1115

Since there might be multiple people at this dyno event, you should go for the Bundlets. That way, you can get multiple flavors and people can have a choice after seeing the results of the dyno.

Personally, I like the carrot cake flavor, but they are all good. This place has great cakes.

I must give a shout out to my wife who suggested we try it a few years ago.

Yeah the Bundlets are the best.
You can get a dozen for $16, not bad at all.

The Red Velvet is my personal fav

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Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

You are a good sport.

Cheesecake of course!

In all seriousness, I really hope the dyno test will happen, I think it would be a great service to M3post and customers to get unbiased numbers.

Dude... cakes are a serious manner!
I love food... maybe more than driving at times! lol

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Originally Posted by Mike@Powerchip

I'm in a 2010 335i loaner car right now and I absolutely love it. Gobs of torque.

It's so much better than the M3 as a daily driver. But on the highway the M3 is much faster on top.

Tuned sometimes it's a toss up - power wise..

I'm driving the Z4 35i right now to lower the miles on the M3...and gotta admit, I'm loving the torque
I'm thinking of getting another Jb4 for the 2 weeks my mom isn't here so I can be tuned lol

Draff1 · 04-18-2011, 04:24 PM

Red Velvet is the best but I hear that they manipulate their calorie counts to suck in potential customers and out duel Bundt cake competitors.

rbk1115 · 04-18-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Draff1

Red Velvet is the best but I hear that they manipulate their calorie counts to suck in potential customers and out duel Bundt cake competitors.

ROFL... HAHAHA

m33 · 04-18-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Draff1

Red Velvet is the best but I hear that they manipulate their calorie counts to suck in potential customers and out duel Bundt cake competitors.

No shit

i just had one yesterday , whats a man gotta do to get actual calorie count these days

persian54 · 04-18-2011, 04:49 PM

Since when do men count calories?

Also.. you're eating a cake lol... it's bad for you already

(fyi I know what you were referring to about changing calorie amount...)

biglare · 04-18-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m33

No shit

i just had one yesterday , whats a man gotta do to get actual calorie count these days

You're such a cake eater!

BPMSport · 05-06-2011, 11:39 AM

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...6&postcount=33

This test will certainly never happen considering the vehicles configuration was modified.

Please see the above referenced post. I was looking forward to this test but as many predicted, it's not going to happen.

chungdae · 05-06-2011, 11:42 AM

Now that Mfest is over and OE and Gintani isn't "so busy" anymore. Maybe OE and Gintani should step up to the plate and take Mike's offer!

biglare · 05-06-2011, 11:45 AM

Fill 'er up!

808MGuy · 05-06-2011, 12:06 PM

The lack of noise from OE's side and now the sudden change in configuration on the owner's side makes me think there's more going on than what is evident on the surface. Perhaps some kick back mods for the owner to not participate in the test? A removal of the cats is a huge difference in configuration which means the original tune will no longer be valid.

m3heaven · 05-06-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 808MGuy

The lack of noise from OE's side and now the sudden change in configuration on the owner's side makes me think there's more going on than what is evident on the surface. Perhaps some kick back mods for the owner to not participate in the test? A removal of the cats is a huge difference in configuration which means the original tune will no longer be valid.

OP bought his new x-pipe from powertrip before this all happened. Lets not start a bunch of assumptions now

alpine335i · 05-06-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by m3heaven

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Originally Posted by 808MGuy

The lack of noise from OE's side and now the sudden change in configuration on the owner's side makes me think there's more going on than what is evident on the surface. Perhaps some kick back mods for the owner to not participate in the test? A removal of the cats is a huge difference in configuration which means the original tune will no longer be valid.

OP bought his new x-pipe from powertrip before this all happened. Lets not start a bunch of assumptions now

+1

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