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4.0 liter V8 414 HP 295 lb-ft torque BMW e90/92 M3 | 251 | 72.54% | |
5.0-liter V8 416 HP 371 lb-ft torque Lexus IS-F | 46 | 13.29% | |
Just the same- depends on the driver | 49 | 14.16% | |
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04-12-2008, 03:28 PM | #111 |
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noted! thks
heres the other contender review c63 http://www.metacafe.com/watch/123007...63_amg_review/ quite impress from the drivers view point
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The MB is VERY fast - but not MT ruins it for me. plus its more cruiser than track machine. Its also got tooooo much bling goin on.
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c63 got impressive nos., after a good chat with mike at Euromotors Bethesda Md, a $65k it has impressive nos... ex.443 lbs of tque, w/ a Slip Differential option available to even put more on the road.. Im nervous about this one guys... very nervous specs sheets show it will deliver 343 of it torque pretty much at any rpms. can it be real! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! Hello! Mother Earth! Im ready to come back!
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AMG? good numbers in a a straight line - but not so good in the curves.
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Yes the C63 is impressive, it will never be a track star like the M3. But it is a BEAST! Wait until the 2009 C63's hit the market. They will have the optional performance package. The performance pack will include: - LSD - Carbon brakes - 15-20% stiffer suspension - raised limiter to 186mph - alcantara interior trim |
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The suspension is already stiff as shit, all the reviewers hate it. What's the point of making it stiffer? So the DSC kicks in even more?
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carbon brakes? that should add about $10k to the price!
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not bad - but the car should come with lim slip standard. good thing is the rotors should last 100,000 miles.
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It won't ever be as composed as a M3, but a really fun/fast car. Last edited by hellrotm; 04-14-2008 at 05:50 AM.. |
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I took the IS F on a track closed course, against the M3, and the Audi R5. The IS F shifts alot better than SMG, it actually inpressed me. But driving the IS F hard was hard, the M3 was super easy to dial in and out of turns. The Audi kicks torque after every shift but thats it. The M3 out does them all in my opinion.
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thks for sharing
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thats right hwrdcur, how about that Driving Event link registration, Im drooling
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for I just read C&Ds review, maybe the same one you read. Well here it is verbatum "What really killed the Benz's chances of upsetting the M3, however, was its harsh ride. At low speeds, the suspension seems overly damped; the C63 dutifully tracks every lump in the pavement to the detriment of the jostled occupants. As the speeds rise, on back-road two-lanes, for example, the problem disappears and the Benz feels extremely capable and secure. But at even higher speeds, on unlimited sections of autobahn, the bucking behavior is back. It never caused the C63 to feel unstable but was nevertheless clearly the worst of the three cars."
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FORGET IT - ITS FOR bmw people only.
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Almost every single comparo has the M3 winning. Only one comparo doesn't, where the C63 won. Each comparo I have read has the IS-F in LAST PLACE. Even behind the aging RS4. Correct the IS-F was 4.4 seconds slower a lap than the M3 sedan on the Motor Trend test tract. |
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