Supercharged, looking for best grip tires for 220M

DATM3 · 12-14-2012, 01:38 PM

I just installed a G-Power supercharger on my car and it is ridiculously fast. My car has 220M 19" wheels and I would like to know which tires I could get that would give me the best grip for 90% street and 10% track use. I currently have Toyo Proxes 4 on them I believe they are the stock size. I still have 90% tread life on them, but they don't grip anything in the first 3 gears. I have searched the forums for best size fit and grip, but most of the responses seem to have come from stock cars that did not require the grip for this much power. Any advice would be great, please include tire brand and size for best fit and grip. Also, if you could link to places that sell them for the best prices would be nice.

Transfer · 12-14-2012, 03:20 PM

Stock vs supercharged, you're still limited by your wheel size and street tires so all those other discussions still apply. A small increase in width to 255/35 front and 275/35 rear would be something you can do.

This C&D comparison should be helpful though...
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
I would have liked to have seen RE-11's and NT05 thrown in this mix.

lm1z · 12-14-2012, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznboi319

I just installed a G-Power supercharger on my car and it is ridiculously fast. My car has 220M 19" wheels and I would like to know which tires I could get that would give me the best grip for 90% street and 10% track use. I currently have Toyo Proxes 4 on them I believe they are the stock size. I still have 90% tread life on them, but they don't grip anything in the first 3 gears. I have searched the forums for best size fit and grip, but most of the responses seem to have come from stock cars that did not require the grip for this much power. Any advice would be great, please include tire brand and size for best fit and grip. Also, if you could link to places that sell them for the best prices would be nice.

You can run a 285/35/19 in the rear.
I would go with an RE11 due to size limitations.

Lane

per · 12-14-2012, 03:38 PM

I had toyo 888 on my ess sc car on volks RE 30 wheels (superlight) try it !
The differnce is huge compared to stock wheels and tires

**ben@tirerack** · 12-14-2012, 04:05 PM

OP, you'll get a big boost in grip by going to something like the RE11 mentioned above or the Yokohama AD08. Really anything from what we at Tire Rack call the Extreme Performance Summer category.

Still, supercharged M3s generally need wider tires to truly harness the power effectively. The 255/35R19 front and 275/35R19 rear is a good place to start. You'll see some people running 295 and even 305 rear widths, but these will need wider wheels and may see some rubbing depending on alignment, wheel offset, and small variations in the build of the car.

The Proxes 4 is an all-season compound and can't compete with the best summer tires, so I'm not surprised to hear they're not gripping. Once you've got your new tires in hand, you can probably have a lot of fun roasting them off somewhere safe and legal.

Expert@ApexWheels · 12-14-2012, 07:58 PM

The extreme summer tires such as Hankook RS-3, Dunlop Star Specs, and Yokohoma AD08 should provide you better dry grip for your supercharged beast! We would not recommend the Toyo R888 on the street as they are R-compounds, unless you're strictly using them for the race track.

DATM3 · 12-16-2012, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lm1z

You can run a 285/35/19 in the rear.
I would go with an RE11 due to size limitations.

Lane

Would I get any scrubbing with these 285/35/19 RE11's? I have stock suspension any everything else stock besides supercharger and test pipes.

quads · 12-16-2012, 09:01 PM

Hey bud... we're in the same town... I'm superharged too (ess 625) I can give you the complete rundown on my experience with tires....

Bottom line I have 305/30/19 PSS'

We really need to meet up asian boi lol

AxisMagi · 12-16-2012, 10:04 PM

I found that more grip was better achieved by switching tire brand/type
rather than sizing up. I'm also supercharged and have tried RE11's in zcp
stock sizes and also bigger 255/35/F19 - 285/35/R19 tires. I prefer the
feeling of stock size for the street.

I think 285/30/19 would be better choice for the rear to be closer to stock
stock tire height. I'm not sure which other brands with comparable
type of rubber would come in this size?

Another consideration is larger tire sizes are perhaps better on wider
wheels for less sidewall flex/roll.

I'm considering getting a dedicated track set of 18's in 275/35 squared
or a 265/35/18 - 285/35/18 staggered setup, haven't decided yet.

Curious to hear details of others experience.

Axis

quads · 12-16-2012, 10:08 PM

Width matters for lateral grip especially if you're at the track going through corners under power

DATM3 · 12-17-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

Hey bud... we're in the same town... I'm superharged too (ess 625) I can give you the complete rundown on my experience with tires....

Bottom line I have 305/30/19 PSS'

We really need to meet up asian boi lol

Yea definitely, I want to go get the car dynoed.. Want to set up something? Lets do some ESS vs G-Power runs after I get some new tires. I want to see if I made the right decision.

You are from the A-Town M club(David right?)!!! You are selling the Forgestar F14 wheels/tires?

quads · 12-17-2012, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznboi319

Yea definitely, I want to go get the car dynoed.. Want to set up something? Lets do some ESS vs G-Power runs after I get some new tires. I want to see if I made the right decision.

You are from the A-Town M club(David right?)!!! You are selling the Forgestar F14 wheels/tires?

Yes thats me lol. We can even swap wheels if you like. I have a warehouse in tucker. I've got some gopros we can document too

You interested in the f14's? 11in wide wheels in the back are just plain awesome and go well with the fi m3

DATM3 · 12-17-2012, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

Yes thats me lol. We can even swap wheels if you like. I have a warehouse in tucker. I've got some gopros we can document too

You interested in the f14's? 11in wide wheels in the back are just plain awesome and go well with the fi m3

However you want to do it. How about we swap wheels and if I win with them I get to keep them

? Yea, we should do some detailed comparison between ESS and G-Power for the community to see.

Too bad they're not gunmetal. I'm not a big fan of matte black wheels. I'll take them if you want to give me a really really good price

.

quads · 12-17-2012, 08:55 AM

LOL ok then I need to put on some cheap wheels hehe.

Mine was dyno'd at 561whp

I do have some gunmetal wheels... arkym j12, bbs fi, te37sl

DATM3 · 12-17-2012, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

LOL ok then I need to put on some cheap wheels hehe.

Mine was dyno'd at 561whp

I do have some gunmetal wheels... arkym j12, bbs fi, te37sl

Damn, you are ballin. Let me borrow some wheels!

quads · 12-17-2012, 09:18 AM

LOL I prefer to sell some

DATM3 · 12-17-2012, 09:56 AM

Why do you need 7 sets of wheels

? There's only 4 seasons in a year. Can you send me some prices for each set? I might be interested in a set if I can afford them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4sevens.com

LOL I prefer to sell some

quads · 12-17-2012, 01:28 PM

Never said I needed them lol.

Let's meet and talk in person

E90///M3` · 12-17-2012, 02:31 PM

future bromance in the making... WIN.

4sevens.com... those FIs make me drool. <3

can't wait to see the comparo runs... i don't know how close the other ESS guys are to you both but i'm sure they wouldn't mind helping with documentation and such.

lm1z · 12-17-2012, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aznboi319

Would I get any scrubbing with these 285/35/19 RE11's? I have stock suspension any everything else stock besides supercharger and test pipes.

No sir. No rubbing at all.
I ran both stock and H&R springs.

lm1z · 12-17-2012, 05:56 PM

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=516884

DATM3 · 12-17-2012, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lm1z

No sir. No rubbing at all.
I ran both stock and H&R springs.

Even if i had two fat friends in the back seats?

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