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      03-14-2011, 09:45 AM   #1
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the size and offset will make it very flush...

EDIT: TO CLARIFY THINGS BELOW. was confused with what i was saying... iphone doesnt help on posting ... hahahaha

************STOCK HEIGHT*****************
get 255 35-19 front or 275 30-19 this set up is pretty safe with the wheel set up you mentioned above (FRONT SET UP)
get 305 30-19 rear this should work pretty good on both without a drop... WITH NO RUBBING ISSUE


******drop with spings 1.0 and .8 not sure which springs you have but i recommend these******
get 255 35-19 front
get 295 30-19 rear
these size tires wont rub on average spring drop. even on RD... (DEPENDING ON TIRES)

********IF YOUR REALLY DROP 1+ WITH COILS*****
255 35-19
275 OR 285-30-19 REAR...
this should work
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get 265 35-19 front or 275 35-19 it might rub a little on the 22+ offset...
get 305 30-19 rear this should work pretty good on both without a drop...
Your front tire sizes are off. A 265/35 will rub and a 275/35 will REALLY rub. You want 265/30 or 275/30 in the front on a 9.5" wheel. You could also run a 255/35 on the front with that wheel width. I just bought a 9.5" et 22 wheels for my front and plan to run 275/30's.
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^^ i agree front tires should be 265/30 or 275/30. if you want 35 profile then it has to be 255/35.
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Your front tire sizes are off. A 265/35 will rub and a 275/35 will REALLY rub. You want 265/30 or 275/30 in the front on a 9.5" wheel. You could also run a 255/35 on the front with that wheel width. I just bought a 9.5" et 22 wheels for my front and plan to run 275/30's.
like mentioned above THIS IS ON STOCK OEM HEIGHT. had no problem running these with same tires and offset and using 275 when i had stock height.... i had the invo at that time... also depends on the tires as well.
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19x9.5 +17 and 19x11 +20 works well for me 265/295 1.8" drop
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I will be running 265/35 on a 9 inch et 22 front and was told it will not rub. May be a different story on a 9.5" wheel though.
It will likely depend on your specific tires, how your fenderliner fits and the assembly tolerances of your car. A few of the RAC group buy guys 9" +22 w/Vredestein 255/35's have reported rear fenderliner rubbing at full lock. My car with that setup just barely clears on both sides in the rear and left front. The right front just touches. I can pretty much guarantee that 265/35 Vredesteins (if they had that size) would pretty seriously rub at full lock. So, if the tires you plan to use are the same actual size (or larger) as the Vred's you will likely have rubbing.

As the wheel and tire get pushed out further (decreasing offset value) the likelihood of rubbing at (or near) full lock goes up as the wheel and tire are traveling a larger distance fore and aft as they are turned. A tire that rubs at +22 might clear at +25.
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Thanks. I talked it over with Ilia@IND and he said they should be ok.

I will be at stock height and my tires are PS2s.
I'm at standard height too although I don't really see how the ride height has much to do with it as the tires move through the same travel envelope no matter where the initial ride height is set with a small variation due to camber settings. I think the PS2's have a more rounded shoulder than the Vred's. I hope it works for you. Be sure to post your results. I don't recall anyone else running 265/35's on the front.
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the size and offset will make it very flush...

************STOCK HEIGHT*****************
get 265 35-19 front or 275 35-19 it might rub a little on the 22+ offset...
get 305 30-19 rear this should work pretty good on both without a drop...


******drop with spings 1.0 and .8 not sure which springs you have but i recommend these******
get 255 35-19
get 295 35-19
these size tires wont rub on average spring drop. even on RD... (DEPENDING ON TIRES)

********IF YOUR REALLY DROP 1+ WITH COILS*****
255 35-19
275 OR 285-30-19 REAR...
this should work
265 35 and 275 35 will not work on our cars. 255/35 is the largest someone should go in the front if you are sticking to a 35 profile. The 295/35 is also the wrong size for the rear.
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265 35 and 275 35 will not work on our cars. 255/35 is the largest someone should go in the front if you are sticking to a 35 profile. The 295/35 is also the wrong size for the rear.
i meant to say rear height must be 30 not 35... iphone typo in error...

NO i dont recommend on using 35 on the rear with wider tires...
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There seems to be many people who say the 265/35/19 is fine and even Julius@wsto says they run that size in front a lot.
it is... i ran 265/35/19 with stock OEM with no issue... no rubbing at all... not if your drop...

also i have seen people that are drop running the same tires front with no issue at all....
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265 35 and 275 35 will not work on our cars. 255/35 is the largest someone should go in the front if you are sticking to a 35 profile. The 295/35 is also the wrong size for the rear.
im pretty sure you can still run 275/35/19 on the front with stock suspension....

i ran 275/30/19 with no issue at all on stock suspension and still have a lot of clearance... on the 35 you might get a a rub on a full lock turn so driving daily condition wont have that issue....

just my own experience...
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Exactly. I know Ilia knows his stuff. Not that AW M3 doesnt, but I trust IND's info.
If you are at stock 4x4 height and non-aggressive offsets (I dont' think many are doing this combo), then sure it may work. I am at zcp height which is only a tiny drop from stock and running 255/35/19 with ZCP wheels spaced out 12mm, and it is extremely close especially at full lock. If I were to go 265/35/19, it would definitely rub at lock. Again, this is just my experience. I don't know why in the world you would want to run 265/35 up front anyway unless you are going for a square set-up.

So I guess if you are running a conservative set-up with stock 4x4 height sure...

BTW Sean- there is a HUGE difference between 275/30 and 275/35. 275/30 should be fine of course, but the 275/35 tire is significantly taller than the 30 profile... huge difference there.
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BTW Sean- there is a HUGE difference between 275/30 and 275/35. 275/30 should be fine of course, but the 275/35 tire is significantly taller than the 30 profile... huge difference there.
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just to update this thread, got my summer set up on the car this past weekend.

9 et 22 fronts with 265/35/19 ps2s

11 et 33 rears with 295/30/19 ps2s

Looks killer! No rubbing on the front, even at full lock, so for a PS2, the 265/35 WILL fit up front.
are you at stock height? I think that is why they work...
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Yes I am. I didnt and still dont plan to go any lower. The fenders are filled with only a 1 finger gap front and rear and I dont feel the need to go any lower.
My previous Z4M Coupe didnt seem to get better with the addition of springs...only lower with more scraping and a rougher ride. I happen to like the stock springs handling characteristics so Im staying stock as far as suspension goes. I would think about switching to ZCP springs, but for 10mm its not worth it.
Like I said, the stock height is like a 4x4, so I am not surprised it worked. I think even at my ZCP height, it would be a problem just judging by how little clearance I had with the 255/35 ps2's. I would love to hear from someone with a reasonably aggressive rim set-up and a drop try to run 265/35...

BTW- I agree with you about the lowering, esp when running taller tires... Until I find a set-up that will retain the amazing handling characteristics, I will remain stock too. My gap right now with 255/35 and 275/35 isn't bad at all as they are both taller than stock (as is your set-up). Hopefully it is not going to look bad when I put my second set of 20s on this week.
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Honestly, I dont think it sits too 4x4 at all. Its basically perfect. With the fenders filled more with my current set up, the car gives the illusion of being lower since the gap tire to fender gap is virtually gone.
I actually noticed this on another members car last weekend. Car looked lowered, but just had taller sidewalls on the tires.
lol did you read my post? Second paragraph.
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just to update this thread, got my summer set up on the car this past weekend.

9 et 22 fronts with 265/35/19 ps2s

11 et 33 rears with 295/30/19 ps2s

Looks killer! No rubbing on the front, even at full lock, so for a PS2, the 265/35 WILL fit up front.
Great! Happy that it's working for you. It's interesting how different the various manufacturers' "same" size tires are. As a heads up, some people are finding the the PZero's can run really large http://www.m3post.com/forums/showpos...96&postcount=7.

Thanks for the follow up.
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