M3 vs Dinan 135 on I-75

[mike33176]

Had a cool sounding little white 135 with no badges but a black "Dinan" on the trunk lid. Had to try, ac on, my 105 lb Akita in the back and I got blocked in the left lane(Imagine that in south florida) changed lanes, pulled up and he nailed it. I was in 5th @ 70mph so, downshifted and, away we went. I was pulling on him until I decided to stop at, let's say, well above the limiter speeds and then he decided to leave. Funny experience. Fast little car that Dinan prepped 135 was. Still, walked on him at WOT

[Motif]

Cool starry bra!

[Erhan]

Can you also share your license plate number?

[MDyDinanM]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

Wait, wait, wait! So are you saying that your modded M3 was faster than a modded 135?!

[bulldog_yyc]

LOL the Dinan tune is so conservative - I would like to see a run vs. a decent FBO 135 and see how you do

[adc]

Originally Posted by turkish335

LOL the Dinan tune is so conservative - I would like to see a run vs. a decent FBO 135 and see how you do

On a high speed roll, what would change?

It's purely academic where I live, because of dense traffic and law enforcement. But theoretically speaking, wouldn't FBO cars be very similar?

[bulldog_yyc]

Originally Posted by adc

On a high speed roll, what would change?

It's purely academic where I live, because of dense traffic and law enforcement. But theoretically speaking, wouldn't FBO cars be very similar?

In a controlled environment, a full bolt on N54 powered car (intercooler, downpipes, intake, exhaust) could walk an m3 in a straight line*. Dinan's tunes are overly conservative and leave much on the table when it comes to performance, but offer some benefit in terms of matching warranty etc. If you add meth to the equation, the results will favor the N54 even more. The car in question only had a tune (OP made no observations about loud exhaust etc, so likely no DP/no exhaust and guys that get Dinan in general will not add any other type of aftermarket parts, maybe they save all their $$'s for a Dinan sticker?). The other bolt ons will add much more power when combined with a tune - and as the tune is more aggressive, the supporting mods should yield more power.

*straight line only, yes M3 still dominates on a track unless there has been significant upgrades to the challenging car, like m3 suspension. No I am not saying the 135/335 is a better car than the M3, just stating what I have personally "observed".

[adc]

Originally Posted by turkish335

In a controlled environment, a full bolt on N54 powered car (intercooler, downpipes, intake, exhaust) could walk an m3 in a straight line*. Dinan's tunes are overly conservative and leave much on the table when it comes to performance, but offer some benefit in terms of matching warranty etc.

Do you account for the full bolt ons on the M3? Xpipe no cats, exhaust, intake and tune.

straight line only, yes M3 still dominates on a track unless there has been significant upgrades to the challenging car, like m3 suspension

Track is so highly dependent on driver and other factors... I've stopped worrying about seconds and only care about how much of a comfort zone the cars gives me - which means I can either push or hold back.

Believe me, I've had this demonstrated to me both ways.

[Mookster]

OP, you didnt WALK him. You're just trying to justify the M3

[mike33176]

Just sharing an experience guys, it definantly had a Dinan Exhaust and , with the way I wasn't killing him, I'm sure he had a tune also since we were above limiter speeds. Also , saw in my rear view a FMIC in the center.

[mike33176]

Originally Posted by erhanh

Can you also share your license plate number?

Sure it's Fl plate number SUK IT1

[ThunderMoose]

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[Black Gold]

Stock 135s and 335s have fmic from the factory.

My Cobb tuned with aftermarket fmic 6mt 335i felt similar in speed to my stock m3.

My friends Cobb tuned with aftermarket fmic 6mt 135i was a good bit quicker than my 335 and probably is faster than a stock m3. A fully bolted on 135i would be a tough race for a bolt on 6mt m3 IMO having owned one.

[erm324]

from personal experience a fully bolted and tuned dct m3 will be a good race for a fbo+meth/racegas 335.......6MT M3 will have a much harder time doing so, theres a significant difference between the dct and 6mts in a straight line

[jtvr4]

I have never understood the concept of judging a cars performance based on it's mods compared to a car which is stock. I would hope the 335/135 twin turbo 6 pushing 10-13 psi modded is going to be faster than a factory stock 4.0 M3

However have the m3 generate 10-13 psi through forced induction and it's going to produce more power and generate a much nicer powerband.

[deepsea]

I think the 135 is like 3-4 hundred lbs lighter than e9* m3 also so it only needs like 340hp to keep up with stock m3 in a straight line.

[jtvr4]

Originally Posted by deepsea

I think the 135 is like 3-4 hundred lbs lighter than e9* m3 also so it only needs like 340hp to keep up with stock m3 in a straight line.

To the wheels yes. 340 crank in a 3xxx pound car isn't going to equal 113 mph traps lol.

[kawchkjf]

I used to own a FBO+meth+JB4 135i.

No way in hell is a M3 even close in the straights! Unless it's a 100+ roll, but the tq of the 135i makes up for it.

On a track however, the M3's suspension geometry shines...and LSD REALLY gives u the confidence to drive.

[AtlM5]

Originally Posted by jtvr4

I have never understood the concept of judging a cars performance based on it's mods compared to a car which is stock. I would hope the 335/135 twin turbo 6 pushing 10-13 psi modded is going to be faster than a factory stock 4.0 M3

However have the m3 generate 10-13 psi through forced induction and it's going to produce more power and generate a much nicer powerband.

you may be worse than a honda ricer saying that.... obviously the M3 is a more expensive and faster car stock so obviously the 135i is gonna need mods to keep up. No one is saying it is a better, it does however respond to mods better being that it is a FI car. But please dont bring up the "if the M3 had a turbo it would be faster" bs...and just FYI as far as turbos go 10-13psi is not a lot of boost at all

[deepsea]

Originally Posted by jtvr4

To the wheels yes. 340 crank in a 3xxx pound car isn't going to equal 113 mph traps lol.

Doesnt the 1M have like 340 hp? doesnt it have the same 0-60 as E9* M3? Thought I read that somewhere.

[DevJ]

Originally Posted by mike33176

Sure it's Fl plate number SUK IT1

delete this post. some asshole will try to report you to the cops...fucking forum people..

[Erhan]

Originally Posted by DevJ

delete this post. some asshole will try to report you to the cops...fucking forum people..

fucking street racers.