The things shops don't tell you about car wraps

Chriskm3 · 06-08-2013, 10:13 PM

So I have decided to remove the 3m car wrap and switch up colors for,the 3rd time. I have done many plastidip cars before but this is my first wrap so I would love to share my newfound experience. As you can see to remove the vinyl is very easy. Once you get a corner going it simply peels off.

in my case along with the clearcoat and the original paint.
1st picture some peeling is visible
Second picture shows the paint on the reverse (sticky side) of the wrap.
The 3rd picture shows the extent of damage occurred to the front bumper.
The only area that has been affected was the front bumper. Nowhere else has any damage been found other than the plastic bumper cover. Interesting for those contemplating on wrapping any plastic painted parts.
Plastidip is a much safer way of doing it guys. I went with 3m because it's the best and most expensive on the market. I guess I was wrong.

Chriskm3 · 06-08-2013, 10:14 PM

Pic 2

Chriskm3 · 06-08-2013, 10:14 PM

Pic 3

Endless619 · 06-08-2013, 10:22 PM

Wow, I would have left it orange. That's crazy.

Jaymax85 · 06-08-2013, 10:24 PM

Man that shop should be held liable for that.

Chriskm3 · 06-08-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jawwadh

Man that shop should be held liable for that.

The shop owner said it happens a lot and they question the condition of the oem paint.

Chriskm3 · 06-08-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Endless619

Wow, I would have left it orange. That's crazy.

Now my car is back to the original color. We are twins again

Endless619 · 06-08-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chriskm3

Now my car is back to the original color. We are twins again

Nice...

I liked your car orange though. Both colors are great IMO. Why the change back? Just get tired of it?

Chriskm3 · 06-08-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Endless619

Nice...

I liked your car orange though. Both colors are great IMO. Why the change back? Just get tired of it?

Too flashy.

WingZeroX5 · 06-08-2013, 10:47 PM

was your bumper ever resprayed in the past?

Chriskm3 · 06-08-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by WingZeroX5

was your bumper ever resprayed in the past?

No. Original oem paint

xliang · 06-08-2013, 10:53 PM

sad to see that happen....however i had no issue when removing my matte red vinyl....

bigup · 06-08-2013, 10:55 PM

Resprayed bumpers can do that, if not prepped properly.

OEM paint should never do that, one of my clients has a big vinyl wrap shop - they remove it all the time, normally without issue.

I even removed vinyl wrap from my resprayed bumper, came off very easy with a heat-gun and didn't damage paint at all.

TrevorM3 · 06-08-2013, 11:02 PM

That is strange, one thing of course everyone was thinking was that maybe the bumper was re-shot at some point... But this likely isn't the case because that paint would've peeled off too. No question.

xliang · 06-08-2013, 11:27 PM

this shot is taken after i had taken matte red off....

Chriskm3 · 06-08-2013, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by xliang

sad to see that happen....however i had no issue when removing my matte red vinyl....

I think your vinyl was hexis not 3m. Restyleit recommends it over 3m. I'm starting to believe them

xliang · 06-08-2013, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chriskm3

I think your vinyl was hexis not 3m. Restyleit recommends it over 3m. I'm starting to believe them

indeed...not 3m.

NELSON.MLGB · 06-09-2013, 12:47 AM

I used 3M clear bra before, it was a pita to take the film off as well. I switched to suntek, 1000 times better than 3M... I think 3M quality is getting worse and worse.

BIGW0RM · 06-09-2013, 11:07 AM

FUCK! That's sucks!

My jet black paint on my rear bumper peeled off from a spoilers 3M double sided tape. A piece the size of a dime lifted right up to the bare plastic below.

Now I drench 3m tape in goo gone before pulling it up out of fear.

Time for the arkym bumper!

mlambert890 · 06-09-2013, 11:18 AM

Maybe its a good idea before doing a wrap to go over the car with a paint depth scanner... Even purchased brand new, there can be re-spray spots b/c of something that happened at the dock. It does happen. This is a horrible way to find out if so.

Could be a freak thing also, but I do know folks who have reversed 3M and didnt have paint damage like that.

Havok_2011 · 06-09-2013, 08:44 PM

To be honest, I have been around the car wrap scene for some time now, and and reputable shop will tell you flat out that if any panel is re-painted there is a big chance the paint might come off. And its rare for it to happen to OEM paint.

Given that this happened to your bumper, I have a feeling it was painted at one point or another, perhaps before you bought it?

A clean title car does not mean of course that it has not had a fender bender or two, or at the least, has had panels re-painted.

tdott · 06-13-2013, 09:03 PM

Did they use a heat gun? Doesn't look like it by how the vinyl ripped.

My wrap came off perfectly fine, took it off myself with a heat gun. Took my time because I was afraid of something like that.

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Chriskm3 Colonel 59 Rep 2,186 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (4)	The things shops don't tell you about car wraps So I have decided to remove the 3m car wrap and switch up colors for,the 3rd time. I have done many plastidip cars before but this is my first wrap so I would love to share my newfound experience. As you can see to remove the vinyl is very easy. Once you get a corner going it simply peels off. in my case along with the clearcoat and the original paint. 1st picture some peeling is visible Second picture shows the paint on the reverse (sticky side) of the wrap. The 3rd picture shows the extent of damage occurred to the front bumper. The only area that has been affected was the front bumper. Nowhere else has any damage been found other than the plastic bumper cover. Interesting for those contemplating on wrapping any plastic painted parts. Plastidip is a much safer way of doing it guys. I went with 3m because it's the best and most expensive on the market. I guess I was wrong. Attached Images __________________ Vf supercharger + tune/H&R coils/ Akra evolution exhaust/Volk te37/ Rs-3 tires/ Brembos /TIal BOV/ OSS blacked out headlights/LUX v3/Led taillights/ Challenge Front lip/ P3 vent gauge/ F10 m5 shift mob/Matte black front grills/ And a funky air fresher Last edited by Chriskm3; 06-08-2013 at 10:23 PM..
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bigup Random Car Person 25 Rep 481 Posts Drives: Slow M3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Calgary, AB iTrader: (1) Garage List 2012 BMW E92 M3 [0.00] 2009 BMW E92 335i [0.00]	Resprayed bumpers can do that, if not prepped properly. OEM paint should never do that, one of my clients has a big vinyl wrap shop - they remove it all the time, normally without issue. I even removed vinyl wrap from my resprayed bumper, came off very easy with a heat-gun and didn't damage paint at all.
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TrevorM3 Banned 3322 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 6.3 AMG Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	That is strange, one thing of course everyone was thinking was that maybe the bumper was re-shot at some point... But this likely isn't the case because that paint would've peeled off too. No question.
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mlambert890 Private First Class 6 Rep 115 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 DCT Coupe Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Maybe its a good idea before doing a wrap to go over the car with a paint depth scanner... Even purchased brand new, there can be re-spray spots b/c of something that happened at the dock. It does happen. This is a horrible way to find out if so. Could be a freak thing also, but I do know folks who have reversed 3M and didnt have paint damage like that.
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Havok_2011 238 Rep 3,155 Posts Drives: Alpine White 2011 M3 Coupe Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Toronto iTrader: (7)	To be honest, I have been around the car wrap scene for some time now, and and reputable shop will tell you flat out that if any panel is re-painted there is a big chance the paint might come off. And its rare for it to happen to OEM paint. Given that this happened to your bumper, I have a feeling it was painted at one point or another, perhaps before you bought it? A clean title car does not mean of course that it has not had a fender bender or two, or at the least, has had panels re-painted.
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tdott Brigadier General 3938 Rep 3,980 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South FL / 6ix iTrader: (4)	Did they use a heat gun? Doesn't look like it by how the vinyl ripped. My wrap came off perfectly fine, took it off myself with a heat gun. Took my time because I was afraid of something like that.
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