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07-26-2007, 01:11 PM | #1 | |
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Unofficial Nordschleife time - 8:02
According to a South African journalist the new M3 bests the previous model by "about 20" seconds, note: 8:22 - 20 = 8:02.
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I find it both amusing and quite entertaining how the unofficial time keeps changing AND CONSTANTLY DECREASING. 8:12 : autoblog.nl 8:10 : Gerhard Richter 8:04 : Autospies ("beats Carrera S") 8:02 : The Star (approximate) When will we see the magic 8:00 barrier broken??? If we take the 20 seconds to be exact this puts the car faster than the following: -911 T3 (993) -911 Carerra S (997) -Lamborghini Diablo GT -Ferarri 575M Maranello -Ferarri 360 Modena -BMW M5&M6 -Aston Martin V8 Vantage |
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07-26-2007, 01:56 PM | #4 |
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The Dutch car magazine called "Autovisie" who talked with some BMW chaps predicted a ring time off 8.00 min ..............................
Based on a average lapspeed off 156 km/h, track distance 20.8 km Did post it somewhere, can`t find it anymore, so here it is again............. |
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07-26-2007, 02:13 PM | #6 | |
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There won't be any evidence unless a test on Nürburgring is done (probably Sportauto supertest). So I think all this estimations based on statements from the BMW guys is the best we get so far... Best regards, south |
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07-26-2007, 02:52 PM | #8 | |
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The article states that while the journalist was at the "ring" he was told the new M is twenty seconds faster than the outgoing generation. Read the thread starter carefully.... The 8:04 was from a seperate source -see Autospies And the 8:12 was a BS time from Autoblog Jason
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07-26-2007, 02:56 PM | #9 | |
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07-26-2007, 03:03 PM | #10 |
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I remember when M5 V10 were introduced, the pressrelese said the new M5 did in close to 8.00 min. We all now know the officiall time for M5 V10 is 8.13 min. I predict the new M3 will be close to that time. Below 8.00 min with the new M3 is impossible without R-tires. Audi R8 does the N-ring in 8.04 min and its a midengine with semi-R-tires, then new M3 wont beat the R8.
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07-26-2007, 03:18 PM | #11 | |
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You have no evidence for your claims re. E92 M3's performance, yet you believe that you can dispute more than one source's report by rattling off meaningless stats about unrelated cars |
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07-26-2007, 03:39 PM | #13 |
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Agreed (Swamp also pointed this out in the OP). Richter would have to be a certified idiot to make a public statement that is false on a topic so many people are watching so closely, and I have a hard time believing the Vice President of the M division can be a certified idiot.
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07-26-2007, 03:57 PM | #14 |
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Why are you putting so much stock in the 8:12 time? What gives you belief to trust that time but not some of the other ones that have been quoted? 8:12 is as much of a rumored time as the rest. There is no way you can make that statement while latching on to a number that has as much credibility as any of the other ones.
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07-26-2007, 04:09 PM | #16 |
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07-26-2007, 04:31 PM | #17 | |
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Faster than R8 0-200 km/h
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Source That being said it would be quite suprising if the M3 bested the R8 time. |
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07-26-2007, 04:37 PM | #18 | |
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07-26-2007, 06:21 PM | #19 |
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Or why dont we just listen to Gerhard since he built the thing and knows how fast it goes. Sounds pretty easy to me
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07-26-2007, 06:38 PM | #20 |
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Not very illuminating
I guess I find "about 20 seconds faster than X" to be more illuminating and slightly more precise than "I can drive a lap in 8:10 carrying on a conversation". Not to mention the result is more exciting.
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07-26-2007, 07:32 PM | #21 |
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Swamp,
Here is the exact quote...there is another pearl in it other than the 8:10 comment. I think we can have a more precise estimate dont you? "It might seem a little too well mannered, but it is faster around the Nurburgring Nordschleife than the V-10 powered M5 sedan, says M GmbH boss Gerhard Richter. How much faster? Precisely 3.54 seconds a lap, says Richter, who adds the new M3 will turn an 8:10 lap without raising a sweat: "I could do that while talking to you as I drive."" Jason
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07-26-2007, 07:46 PM | #22 | |
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Regarding the other hypothetical times; they are just that...actually they are just HYPE. Its not that I don't believe the M will run an impressive time, it just won't run a sub 8:05 on the tires it will be delivered with. And, I think an 8:05 is very optimistic...an 8:10 is more likely. What I don't like about the article it that it was created to take on a life of it's own, which it already has here on this forum. Some journalist, who doesn't know shit, makes a claim that the M runs that fast and people start believing it. |
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