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and I may have to integrate the 09 steering wheel with heat.
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I love my E93. Performance wise, I think the argument that a coupe or sedan is the more "pure" experience is legitimate, but I would counter by saying that it is rare for the "average" M3 driver to ever get a chance to drive in a situation that would make the differences apparent. I would be curious to see what percent of M3 owners ever put their cars on a track. Unfortunately, I doubt it's a majority.
So, for a small performance hit that I'll probably never see, I get all the benefits of a convertible, including most importantly, a better aural experience in regards to the engine. If you happen to live somwhere that there's a reasonable amount of sunshine, I kind of think it's a no-brainer. |
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The extra weight of the vert is not just noticeable on a track though. Especially compared with the weight distribution of the coupe. Also, it is lacking (IMO) in the aesthetics department when the top is up. Top down, beautiful. Top up, awkward. So I think that is a reason that steers buyers in one direction or the other. I'd bet that 5-7% of all M3 owners put their cars on the track. That is just a total guess though. I'm sure there is a poll on here about that topic, but I don't think we're very representative of the overall M3 population. |
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12-05-2008, 07:21 AM | #29 | |
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I actually think the sedan is the best looking of all three, but you jsut can't beat putting the top down.
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it was -5 yesterday at least..it was freezing! are you nuts! lol
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I never knew that..what could cold temps do to the roof mechanism?
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Same thing cold temps can do to anything mechanical - cause undue wear and premature failure. You drivetrain has lubricant designed to mitigate this, and also heats up to operating temp quickly. The folding top doesn't have these features.
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Get the convertible. When the first E92 M3 was announced, I was so tempted to place an order, but I waited... knowing the convertible would be less than a year behind the coupe. I'm so glad I waited. I placed my order the same week BMW announced production of the E93 M3 and took delivery in early August 2008. You'll hear people moan and belly-ache about the added weight (and resultant performance hit) but that's a bunch of crap. Only in the most extreme situations will you feel the performance difference (between the coupe and convertible). Many E93 drivers will never (consistently) push the car to those limits. Also, it's ludicrous to compare any convertible to any coupe -- they're different beasts. Compare the E93 M3 to ANY other four-seat convertible on the market and she'll definitely hold her own when it comes to performance. Get the convertible and don't look back. I absolutely LOVE the sound of the engine when the top's down. That's a sound and sensation our coupe brethren will never know. Quote:
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Yeah, I guess am a little nuts but nothing beats the fresh air on a clear night, and the heated seats do work really well.
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Check out http://www.m3post.com/forums/album.php?albumid=301 for an album that I created from my pics at Sauble Beach. These were taken with a hand-held point and shot, think I need a good dSLR for next summer. Now the tough part is wait for summer again.
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Fie - I've seen different numbers for both of these cars with the M3 E93 being at 5.1 and the GT500 vert being at 4.6 and gt500 coupe being at 4.3? They will differ between the various auto rags...but that 5.4LSC V8 was a beast...power was "instant on" which is very different from the M which is higher revving and takes just a bit longer to get into it's powerband. And believe it or not, the M3 E93 is just as heavy (if not a few pounds heavier) than the GT500 vert. Glad I have the M3 vert - it's so refined and precise compared with the GT500.....
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Good point and another point I'd like to make is that after owing 4 American convertibles over the last 7 years, BMW has HANDS DOWN defeated the dreaded "Header Shake" issue...my M3 vert is ROCK SOLID compared to every other vert I've owned...there is just a bit of header shake in M drive when going over tracks, etc....but nothing compared to my other verts. As a matter of fact the header shake is such an issue on the GT500 vert that Ford has to use softer front suspension to minimize the shake! I purchased 19" aftermarket wheels/tires and had to remove them after 300 miles as their stiffer ride made the header shake unbearable...that was when I decided it was time to trade it for something more refined. I was thrilled when I drove the M3 E93 and felt how solid it was with the top down!
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