New NA Mods, Money well spend

Cingulus · 06-20-2013, 05:04 PM

Hey,

First, I would like to thank Robert Tan and the EAS team for providing great council and doing good work. I have spent a bunch of time considering NA mods vs. FI mods. After spending a bunch of time going over all of the modification options and costs, I chose to go with NA mods from EAS. They installed the following on my 2011 E90 manual:

• ESS ECU Tune
• Macht Schnell - Performance Underdrive Pulley
• Macht-Schnell – Race pipes
• Macht-Schnell – Stage 2 intake

I know many have said this about their modifications, but this is how the car should have been from the beginning.

• Start-up – is very smooth and not as rough as stock
• First Gear – better pull, but still kind of weak to me still
• Second Gear – this is where the car comes alive, it is very strong and it really shows what the car can do.
• Third Gear – very strong with better torque and you can really get the full 8600 RPM
• Fourth Gear – the car continues to pull until up to the full 8600 RPM
• Fifth Gear – The top end start to get weaker about 7500 rpm
• Sixth Gear – feels like first, slower acceleration
• Noise – It is louder, I like it, but people on the Bluetooth speaker will ask what that noise its

FVM3 · 06-20-2013, 05:38 PM

Did you dyno it?

Cingulus · 06-20-2013, 05:57 PM

Yes, they are sending the pdfs. Will post when I get them.

robert @ eas · 06-20-2013, 05:59 PM

Glad you are liking the new mods

Cingulus · 06-20-2013, 06:03 PM

Dyno

FVM3 · 06-20-2013, 07:22 PM

Not sure about this but without s/c it, is it possible to push over 400 rwhp ?

spr · 06-20-2013, 07:25 PM

Seems pretty common that tune, pulleys, filter and test pipes (primary cat delete) will get 400rwhp.

Mmmdreamer · 06-20-2013, 07:50 PM

Nice mods! Vroom vroom!

Jive · 06-20-2013, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cingulus

Dyno

Those numbers are pretty low considering the mods, no? Assuming a 15% drive train loss.

mdosu · 06-20-2013, 08:02 PM

What's with that dip on run 1?

JuzMe · 06-20-2013, 08:03 PM

Thought it'll be bit more power with those mods

tdott · 06-20-2013, 09:06 PM

Is that the before? Where is the after?

Chriskm3 · 06-20-2013, 09:11 PM

Well done

FVM3 · 06-20-2013, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spr

Seems pretty common that tune, pulleys, filter and test pipes (primary cat delete) will get 400rwhp.

Whats the maximum ballpark rwhp a NA M3 can push out?

chmura · 06-20-2013, 09:35 PM

The cold start up noise is one of the best features of the M3!

I just hope the M3/M4 has something similar.

W Cole · 06-20-2013, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdott

Is that the before? Where is the after?

+1 I hope those are the before dynos

Someone? · 06-20-2013, 09:57 PM

I dont think somethings riight, heres a dyno done with Just the MS pulley's and intake, NO exhaust and no tune, it made 12hp w/ just them too things. It was done on a Dynojet , BUT so was his at EAS^.

pkimM3r · 06-21-2013, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ibmike

I dont think somethings riight, heres a dyno done with Just the MS pulley's and intake, NO exhaust and no tune, it made 12hp w/ just them too things.
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=404756

Diff dynos read different. Mustang (heartbreaker) dyno is the way to go. Get gains on one of those and wow.

pkimM3r · 06-21-2013, 01:12 AM

I was wondering where the hell he was doing redline pulls on the street through 5th gear lol.

urBan_dK · 06-21-2013, 01:09 PM

I love how the impression of the tune changes depending on what gear he's in. That must be some crazy tune to change based on the current gear, LOL.

325rider · 06-21-2013, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urBan_dK

I love how the impression of the tune changes depending on what gear he's in. That must be some crazy tune to change based on the current gear, LOL.

Yea wtf. Fail thread is fail

Longwong · 06-21-2013, 09:28 PM

Clearly this guy is not sure what he is talking about. There is physically no possible way 1st gear can feel slow and 2nd, 3rd and 4th feel fast. EVERY gear lower will accelerate harder given its huge gear torque multplication! 1st barring total traction lost will always pull harder than 2nd, 2nd harder than third.

Than 5th suddenly stops pulling at 7500? Again power is made above that and nothing magic happens at 7500 however I have never been there in 5th.

Those dyno's has a wierd blip in them and makes me wonder if something is not right with the car. Dyno's without logging data is almost useless. what was the timing achieved? A/F ratio? That would be able to tell us if the tune was even helping or if your spark plugs maybe need changing etc.

So you gained 5 hp? Sweet

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Cingulus Private 2 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2011 M3, 06 A3, 03 350Z TT, Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Temecula, CA iTrader: (0)	New NA Mods, Money well spend Hey, First, I would like to thank Robert Tan and the EAS team for providing great council and doing good work. I have spent a bunch of time considering NA mods vs. FI mods. After spending a bunch of time going over all of the modification options and costs, I chose to go with NA mods from EAS. They installed the following on my 2011 E90 manual: • ESS ECU Tune • Macht Schnell - Performance Underdrive Pulley • Macht-Schnell – Race pipes • Macht-Schnell – Stage 2 intake I know many have said this about their modifications, but this is how the car should have been from the beginning. • Start-up – is very smooth and not as rough as stock • First Gear – better pull, but still kind of weak to me still • Second Gear – this is where the car comes alive, it is very strong and it really shows what the car can do. • Third Gear – very strong with better torque and you can really get the full 8600 RPM • Fourth Gear – the car continues to pull until up to the full 8600 RPM • Fifth Gear – The top end start to get weaker about 7500 rpm • Sixth Gear – feels like first, slower acceleration • Noise – It is louder, I like it, but people on the Bluetooth speaker will ask what that noise its
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Longwong Banned 38 Rep 370 Posts Drives: e92 m3 catless Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Clearly this guy is not sure what he is talking about. There is physically no possible way 1st gear can feel slow and 2nd, 3rd and 4th feel fast. EVERY gear lower will accelerate harder given its huge gear torque multplication! 1st barring total traction lost will always pull harder than 2nd, 2nd harder than third. Than 5th suddenly stops pulling at 7500? Again power is made above that and nothing magic happens at 7500 however I have never been there in 5th. Those dyno's has a wierd blip in them and makes me wonder if something is not right with the car. Dyno's without logging data is almost useless. what was the timing achieved? A/F ratio? That would be able to tell us if the tune was even helping or if your spark plugs maybe need changing etc. So you gained 5 hp? Sweet
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