A different oil option for the M

[Longwong]

Not sure if I have ever read about Torco oil on this board. They are well known in racing around the world but are smaller scale in terms of their race fuel than VP or Sunoco. However they make great products.

They have variety of high performance oils and I noticed today their Torco rs5 oil line has 5w50 and 10w60. I bought a case and will try the 5w50 next oil change. Has a viscosity at 100 of about 20 and significantly less viscous at 40 degrees than TWS. However it offers high temp protection as it is a race-street oil, longevity of 6k miles oil changes (I asked torco today) and has a pretty nifty moly-ph-zn combination additive that is supposed to be real slippery. Claims of 4 percent increase in power.

Good to have options!

[bigjae1976]

Yes, most "racing" oils will have more additives for better protection. But with the additives in those racing oils...need to be careful. They can f' your cats pretty quickly.

TWS 10w-60 lacks the zinc and phosphorus that racers desire for a reason...emissions.

[Longwong]

All street oils have zinc-ph. These are street oils from Torco so the concentrations are not high enough to be a problem for cats. Also MANY owners here run catless or high flow cats.

If you read about why race oils have that warning is because the EPA requires cats to last 200k miles and oil companies have to comply with this if they will add to the decreasing the longevity. We are talking about lowering the life by maybe 20-25 k miles so its pretty irrelevant to the majority of this board who will never see that many miles with the cats anyway

[bigjae1976]

There are a lot of variables so I don't buy the 20-25k mile number at all. What about those that see emissions testing? They'll fail or be really borderline with most racing oils.

But...I don't see the point. TWS 10w-60 has proven over a large population that it adequately protects high revving engines like the S54, S65, and S85. Oil quality or its properties haven't been the issue. Some have said the rod bearings are a problem...I disagree...it comes with the territory for a high revving engine.

I'm sure you're smart. I think the engineers at BMW are just a little smarter, no offense.

[Longwong]

Why are you so critical? All I did was inform people of an option that I have not seen discussed. I did not say it was better did I? I simply said I was going to try it. I don't care about emissions and have no cats. It has a viscosity of 130 vs 170 for tws at 40 degrees. for better cold start protection for our bearings but offers viscosity of 20 at 100 degrees (vs 14 for 0w40 which people use) so it offers a better protection at really high temps for those who want to redline the car and run it at high temperatures of above 210 for sustained periods.

Simply giving people another option for those who like options

[aus]

Maybe it's because you've started 4-5 threads that could have all been combined into a single thread???

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[Leonardo629]

another oil thread? what happened to M1 0W50?

[aussiem3]

What the hell is going on here? Totally out of control. Another oil and another thread. Man, this guy is jobless.

[IMG]

O boy

[bigjae1976]

Originally Posted by aus

Maybe it's because you've started 4-5 threads that could have all been combined into a single thread???

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Yup. When people really think about it...they will come full circle back to Castrol TWS 10w-60 at least until their warranty runs out.

When E9X M3s start becoming prevalent track only cars...then let's have the discussion. Still, TWS 10w-60 does a pretty damned good job.

[BMRLVR]

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by Longwong

Not sure if I have ever read about Torco oil on this board. They are well known in racing around the world but are smaller scale in terms of their race fuel than VP or Sunoco. However they make great products.

They have variety of high performance oils and I noticed today their Torco rs5 oil line has 5w50 and 10w60. I bought a case and will try the 5w50 next oil change. Has a viscosity at 100 of about 20 and significantly less viscous at 40 degrees than TWS. However it offers high temp protection as it is a race-street oil, longevity of 6k miles oil changes (I asked torco today) and has a pretty nifty moly-ph-zn combination additive that is supposed to be real slippery. Claims of 4 percent increase in power.

Good to have options!

you should try astroglide because every time you put up another oil thread your gonna get nailed.

[mdosu]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

what are these cats and emissions you speak of? do you still run tws james? im using total quartz racing at this point.

I"m confused now.

thought Longwong wanted thinner oil?

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by bigjae1976

Yes, most "racing" oils will have more additives for better protection. But with the additives in those racing oils...need to be careful. They can f' your cats pretty quickly.

TWS 10w-60 lacks the zinc and phosphorus that racers desire for a reason...emissions.

do you still run tws james? im running total quartz racing at this point. what are these cats and emissions you speak of?

[Longwong]

What is the purpose of a forum? I thought it is to share information. Most people don't read old threads or may not see something embedded in a new thread. Aren't there anyone else who likes information like different options for their oil? I like the M10w50 but I also like trying different products in any realm of life to see what is the best one for me.

Easy to remove the thread just ask the moderators. Given people start posts about topics with no actual information, I offered people some information to let them know there is another 10w60 available (many threads have asked what else is available) and also commented there is grade down.

If you don't like the info then move on folks! Or you can run 0w40 and damage your engine like Kawasaki does. Your call

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by Longwong

What is the purpose of a forum? I thought it is to share information. Most people don't read old threads or may not see something embedded in a new thread. Aren't there anyone else who likes information like different options for their oil? I like the M10w50 but I also like trying different products in any realm of life to see what is the best one for me.

Easy to remove the thread just ask the moderators. Given people start posts about topics with no actual information, I offered people some information to let them know there is another 10w60 available (many threads have asked what else is available) and also commented there is grade down.

If you don't like the info then move on folks! Or you can run 0w40 and damage your engine like Kawasaki does. Your call

nobody is listening anymore just annoyed.

[GIdriver]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

you should try astroglide because every time you put up another oil thread your gonna get nailed.

[BPMSport]

Originally Posted by Longwong

Or you can run 0w40 and damage your engine like Kawasaki does. Your call

[kawasaki00]

Originally Posted by Longwong

I like the M10w50 but I also like trying different products in any realm of life to see what is the best one for me.

If you don't like the info then move on folks! Or you can run 0w40 and damage your engine like Kawasaki does. Your call

First off, you are a troll, you have absolutely no knowledge of what you are talking about. I really don't care if the post gets deleted but here you go.
I hate to burst your bubble but the 0-50 that you are using is nothing more than the same 0-40 that some of us are using with additive zinc. I know because we have a big bucket of pure liquid zinc at the shop so we can add as much as we want to whatever oil we want. If you actually knew what you were talking about you would know that pure zinc is about the consistency of maple syrup. So when they add more additive to the 0-40 it now becomes a 0-50. There is more to it but you don't have security clearance to know this info.
Furthermore, I have never bashed you on any thread and do not talk down to people just because they do not know something. Don't run me through the mud talking about I am ruining my engine. I only post factual info that I know to be true.
Here is a picture of many Championship rings that I have from being a engine builder. This picture is from 5 straight championships for Jimmie Johnson. Another pic of being engine builder champion.
So until you aquire these credentials I suggest you gets your facts straight before posting.
Furthermore if you change oil type every oil change then the only way you will know if it works if it doesn't blow up???

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by kawasaki00

First off, you are a troll, you have absolutely no knowledge of what you are talking about. I really don't care if the post gets deleted but here you go.
I hate to burst your bubble but the 0-50 that you are using is nothing more than the same 0-40 that some of us are using with additive zinc. I know because we have a big bucket of pure liquid zinc at the shop so we can add as much as we want to whatever oil we want. If you actually knew what you were talking about you would know that pure zinc is about the consistency of maple syrup. So when they add more additive to the 0-40 it now becomes a 0-50. There is more to it but you don't have security clearance to know this info.
Furthermore, I have never bashed you on any thread and do not talk down to people just because they do not know something. Don't run me through the mud talking about I am ruining my engine. I only post factual info that I know to be true.
Here is a picture of many Championship rings that I have from being a engine builder. This picture is from 5 straight championships for Jimmie Johnson. Another pic of being engine builder champion.
So until you aquire these credentials I suggest you gets your facts straight before posting.
Furthermore if you change oil type every oil change then the only way you will know if it works if it doesn't blow up???

Game over! We have a winner.

[mdosu]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Game over! We have a winner.

Give Mr. Wong a chance to post his Forza Motorsports trophies, before declaring a winner.

[///M Power-Belgium]

I'm done with all the OP oils !
BTW...i think this is the next oil change ..........