08 E93 water leak on driver and passenger side windows?

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by graider

that sux though. what if the only sunoco car wash close down? LOL

thats a good question! lol

[gr8000]

Originally Posted by M3 vert

Did you ever take your 6 series through a Touchless CarWash, you will be amazed when you do

Is this safe for the paint?

I was wondering about this the other day when I started washing my car by blowing the majority of the dust out of it via a high pressure water beam. I had second toughts as I though that this might damage the paint in the long run (as opposed to a careful hand wash)...

[BigHat]

Originally Posted by M3 vert

Did you ever take your 6 series through a Touchless CarWash, you will be amazed when you do

Because depending on the speed and angle of the high pressure wash, it would leak.

I'll take your word for it.

Never taking any of my cars into a car wash of any type.

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by BigHat

I'll take your word for it.

Never taking any of my cars into a car wash of any type.

may i ask why you would "NEVER" take any of your cars through a car wash?
Sorry dude, but that sounds dumb imo because a touchless wash is exactly that, its touchless. If my car is super dirty, i much prefer letting the pressure wash it vs me rubbing it in with a wash mitt or sponge. By the way, I used to be a professional detailer for about 10 years.

[skywalker562]

thanks guys~ all your opinions are welcome. =) got a word from the dealer. the SA could not find the water leak. I can't believe that the SA just said it. i don' think the rubber seal "self-heal" somehow and stop water leak. we'll see. we will prob. have rain tomorrow and thru sat. let see if they really fixed it. or i just imagine things... not happy with the service. the SA is basically saying i am a lier. lucky i took pictures and videos.

[M3 vert]

Originally Posted by skywalker562

thanks guys~ all your opinions are welcome. =) got a word from the dealer. the SA could not find the water leak. I can't believe that the SA just said it. i don' think the rubber seal "self-heal" somehow and stop water leak. we'll see. we will prob. have rain tomorrow and thru sat. let see if they really fixed it. or i just imagine things... not happy with the service. the SA is basically saying i am a lier. lucky i took pictures and videos.

WTF

yOU PICKED UP THE VEHICLE FROM YOUR DEALER?

i would have never done that, unless and until they fix my shit, goddamnit i paid over $CDN100,000 for the fucking vert, DEAL WITH IT!!!

Honestly, a few years ago a similar situation happened when my service advisor told me my '02 745Li was running smooth (50,000 Miles/80,000KM), which it wasnt .

I had brought it in a few times, they still respected my cause, and changed a few parts and it would become smooth for a bit and then again it would run rough!
The last time it happened, I told the SA, whats the problem now?
He said " We cant seem to find anything wrong with it? "

I spoke to the service manager (which I met for the very first time), he said
"This is normal and showed me a '03 745i with lower KM on there lot, and said
"see thats shaking too ,"
I am like:
"listen I dont care whats wrong with this one, albeit the 2003 was shaking more then mine with lower KM, i told him to fix mine!"

and told him:

" Keep your rental and the 745Li, and you will hear from my lawyers and BMW Canada tomorrrow "

After a few days: nothing
(as I never called BMW or my lawyers and gave them a chance to do it right),
He called and said:
" After performing a leakdown test on the engine, we found one of the cylinder walls had started to peel because of fuel having gotten in it and this is probably the reason for the rough start!"
WAIT FOR THIS:
he said:
"..We have ordered a new engine on your vehicle , and apologised several times for his mistakes earlier "
and voila the 745 was running smooth as it should


That service manager is to this day a good and dear friend of mine and still treats me like royalty! because I was always strong, polite and assertive with my approach to my car's issues. And he respects my opinions as much I as I respect his!

So its your car, everyone has a different approach to things, but I would not be able to rest if my vehicle's roof was leaking water from rain

[skywalker562]

wish i have your people skills.

no i haven't picked it up yet. i was planning on going to the dealer today (it's 3Am rigth now so approx. 8 hrs from now) and see if they really fixeed it. if not, i was going to talk to the service manager (which i already exchanged email couple of times before) and show the car is not normal and need repairs (water leak and the man. trans) . like you said, i don't care if other cars are running like mine. all the basic machanics are the same. tranny is not suppose to make that weird noise (clunk and grind) and roof should seal water period. M3 is no different than other machine.

anyway, thank you for your support. i wish you are right here in CA so you can help me out.

wish me luck. it's my first BMW and i hope i can keep my respect for the brand and service department. so far, they ain't....

[graider]

Originally Posted by skywalker562

wish i have your people skills.

no i haven't picked it up yet. i was planning on going to the dealer today (it's 3Am rigth now so approx. 8 hrs from now) and see if they really fixeed it. if not, i was going to talk to the service manager (which i already exchanged email couple of times before) and show the car is not normal and need repairs (water leak and the man. trans) . like you said, i don't care if other cars are running like mine. all the basic machanics are the same. tranny is not suppose to make that weird noise (clunk and grind) and roof should seal water period. M3 is no different than other machine.

anyway, thank you for your support. i wish you are right here in CA so you can help me out.


wish me luck. it's my first BMW and i hope i can keep my respect for the brand and service department. so far, they ain't....

good luck man, stand your ground.

[skywalker562]

picked up my car.
so far just a little drops. not major leak. but we have very light rain also. they fixed it by putting good old rubber tube inside of the rubber seal. the SA told me that they just got Service bulletin on water leak issue. i'll drive around couple of days. if it seals water, that's great. if it's not, man i don't know what to do. i can't just replace the whole top? can i?

[M3 vert]

Originally Posted by skywalker562

picked up my car.
so far just a little drops. not major leak. but we have very light rain also. they fixed it by putting good old rubber tube inside of the rubber seal. the SA told me that they just got Service bulletin on water leak issue. i'll drive around couple of days. if it seals water, that's great. if it's not, man i don't know what to do. i can't just replace the whole top? can i?

yes if I was in Cali I would have had a word with them
however good to hear they fixed some of it!
whats the service bulletin number/text on the leaking roof?

please post that in more detail, it could be helpful for a lot of the vert guys.

Thanks for the update

[skywalker562]

i wish i can just scan this and post it but... (no access to scanner right now) so here we go.

J# 2 51BMZ Body equipment TECH(S): 101950 WARRANTY
CUSTOMER REPORTS THAT THE VEHICLE IS LEACKING WATER
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INSTALLED VACCUMM AS PRECAUTION TO PREVENT WATER LEAK AS PER SIB FROM BMW

PARTS...QTY...FP NUMBER
1 11-72-7-545-323 VACUUM HOSE BLACK
0 52-10-7-842-804 UPHOLSTERY SEAT

and other informations.

i hope other E93s don't leak. i heard once it leaks, it never stops. i just checked my windows, i see some water lines on the inside of the windows. and not much of rain. i'll keep you guys updated.

[SlammedR8]

Originally Posted by skywalker562

i wish i can just scan this and post it but... (no access to scanner right now) so here we go.

J# 2 51BMZ Body equipment TECH(S): 101950 WARRANTY
CUSTOMER REPORTS THAT THE VEHICLE IS LEACKING WATER
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~~~
INSTALLED VACCUMM AS PRECAUTION TO PREVENT WATER LEAK AS PER SIB FROM BMW

PARTS...QTY...FP NUMBER
1 11-72-7-545-323 VACUUM HOSE BLACK
0 52-10-7-842-804 UPHOLSTERY SEAT

and other informations.

i hope other E93s don't leak. i heard once it leaks, it never stops. i just checked my windows, i see some water lines on the inside of the windows. and not much of rain. i'll keep you guys updated.

so in other words, its still leaking?

[skywalker562]

yes not as bad as the last time. XD but it still leaks. the funny thing it it leask after raining or carwash. water comes out of nowhere and drop onto my pass. seat. i'll try to get pictures this week. i have couple but i'll take some them again.
I am not sure if i go back to the same dealer. maybe i 'll better off going to different one. i know if i brign this issue up to the GM or SM, i'll get definitly "yes, we'll try our best to fix it" but if "the best" isn't working for you or the car, what can you do, u know. thanks for reading this thread. hopefully, people (Buyers or BMW) aware of E93 water leak problem and resolve it. i can't believe M3 has water leak problem. my friends laughted at me / the car. very sad moment.

[Murat Aydinoglu]

Hi
i know a very old post but i was having the similar issue and after few tries i got this resolved at the dealer. Let me know if anybody having this issue maybe i can help

[burtonsbs5114]

I am having issues with a slight leak on the passenger side. What did they do to fix it? Mine is an '08. It only leaks when I wash it.

[Murat Aydinoglu]

Hi ,
I am attaching the file from the dealer about the roof leak,
The first attempt did slow down the leak but the leak was still present.
The second attempt fixed the leak completely.There was a little damage to the tint on the window but since it is not visible when the window is closed it does not bother me much.

I hope this helps people with the leaks.

[Mvy]

I had the same issue. I used gummi flege , the rubber conditioner and it reduced the problem. When I spray a hose when washing in that area it does get a couple drops inside the window, but the rubber treatment seems to have stopped this during the rain. Sometimes a piece of cloth from the headliner gets caught up in the works when opening and closing the top. Open the top and stop it mid way and check for this as well. To me its not a huge deal as the amount of water has always been a drop or two, not a flood of water on the seat.