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Hehe i like this..
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04-26-2011, 06:06 PM | #76 | |
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The M3 will win on a road course. Granted, it won't run away from the C63, but it will win decisively (by about a second a minute, as far as I can tell). Bruce |
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First, you said that the M3, suitably equipped, could run fender to fender with a C63. That's incorrect. The quickest and fastest M3 (that I know of) ran 12.4 @ 114 mph while in Car & Driver's possession. The same magazine tested a C63 and got 12.3 @ 116, and, more recently, the 481 HP model at 12.3 @ 117. As I've mentioned, that's close, but no cigar. Furthermore, the C63 is pulling away nicely at the finish line. I assume the M3 benefits from its launch control in such a contest, but trap speed is indeed very important. I'd like to see your evidence that the M3 can provide similar trap speeds. Second, you said "...m3's (sic) that have recently been tested..." Please tell me where those tests have recently shown up. I only know of the one I mentioned, and I'd genuinely like to know about other similar times that have been published. In short, please back up your assertions. Lastly, I have no idea what your idea of "embarrass" means in a drag race. To some, that may mean the C63 consistenly wins, while to others, the car would have to be in a different zip code by the time the M3 hits the finish line in order for that term to apply. Why get vexed over a single word? Looking forward to hearing from you about your assertions - which, if I wasn't clear, I'm challenging. Bruce |
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No disrespect directed at you, but that paragraph just had to've been penned before the U.K. guy took over at Motor Trend. And thank God he did. It basically contradicts itself. The bimmer runs wheel to wheel with the Benz to 60, but the Benz is quicker off the line and thus wins the quarter mile battle by a tenth? How can you be wheel to wheel but be behind for the entire quarter mile from start to finish? I have no reason to disbelieve Motor Trend when they say that trap speeds were virtually identical between their two cars, but that is emphatically not the norm. Perusing the databases in this forum show that to be true, as well as quarter mile times and trap speeds recorded elsewhere. As I've said, it's pretty close, but the Merc wins, and wins going away. Quote:
Reasonable people may disagree, but the use of the word "embarrass" in this context is far from absurd. In addition, I'm quite sure that my saying the M3 will embarrass the C63 on a road course doesn't drive you into a rage. Right? I just used the Car & Driver numbers because they're very careful about zeroing out weather conditions (and have the very best magazine results ever for both the M3 and C63), while God only knows what Motor Trend was doing in 2008. I don't know if ol' Angus was aboard then, but doubt it, or he wouldn't have let that ridiculous paragraph slip through. Bruce PS - Look, my previously stated (and stated, and stated) position about the current M3 is that it's a definite overachiever, but in this one particular area, the C63 has it covered, even though the M3 does slightly better in the power to weight arena and has a quicker, more efficient automatic. |
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I'd be willing to bet important money that the C63 was ahead for the entire quarter mile, based on that paragraph. No biggie, but something for you to think about. Bruce |
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I bet your right lol
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I think he's/they are more trying to get you to race. Of course the M3 would be smart to pass on that for various reasons (including the fact that street racing is inevitably flawed as a pursuit) but most notably it may leave an egotistical M3 owner (who thinks everyone is jealous of their modest $60,000 car) with a shriveled dick. C63 is a very serious highway stormer. |
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I love everything about M3post except for one thing. For some reason, and I never would have guessed before I joined; But so many forum members get butt hurt if someone tries to race them. They realize you have a fast car people, you should be taking it as a complement if they are trying to race you, whether it's obviously slower than our cars or obviously faster. Last edited by N8dawg; 05-22-2011 at 05:51 PM.. |
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firstly i do not own an m3. prices are sky high here and an m3 costs about 120000 euros. one can only dream right..
one day i was driving around in my friens renault clio sport 2.0. quick little car, he was bored to drive so i was driving. we came across an audi r8 and ofcourse i tried to race it.. actually we were looking for people to race even cars much faster than what we had. why?? because we want to see fast cars in action.. as someone stated before, its a complement if someone is trying to race you.. they just want to see a fast car in action.. if i had an m3 i'd race whatever was up for it..
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Believe it or not, I've had all sorts of "sports cars", on the interstates mostly, fly up behind me, see it's a M3 and tuck in following me to their exit. All most no one challenges me in this car. Coming out of a Audi TT it's amazing. Every asshat in the world wanted a piece of that TT and usually got it. Most want nothing to do with this M3. I'm thinking of de-badging so I can get some action.
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"Most anyone who wants to race an M3 will race it because he knows it's an M3" Agreed 100%. Plus there's no way to hide four black tipped tail pipes or a front end that eats puppies and small children. The main point I'm making is the deference other drivers show the M.
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